Comments on: The Irony And The Idiocy http://blog.norml.org/2008/09/16/the-irony-and-the-idiocy/ Working to reform marijuana laws Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:48:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Bobbo http://blog.norml.org/2008/09/16/the-irony-and-the-idiocy/#comment-4462 Bobbo Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:12:47 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/2008/09/16/the-irony-and-the-idiocy/#comment-4462 Excuse me, I mis-quoted, It was a British Think-tank that established that Marijuana is less harmful than Alcohol, or tobacco. I mis-quoted by saying it was the British Journal of Medicine. I apologize for the mis-quote Excuse me, I mis-quoted, It was a British Think-tank that established that Marijuana is less harmful than Alcohol, or tobacco. I mis-quoted by saying it was the British Journal of Medicine. I apologize for the mis-quote

]]> By: Bobbo http://blog.norml.org/2008/09/16/the-irony-and-the-idiocy/#comment-4461 Bobbo Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:46:44 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/2008/09/16/the-irony-and-the-idiocy/#comment-4461 So, what do We have here? Ignorance. Ignorance to the facts. The Drug Czar must Be Old J. Edgar Hoover's Kin-folk, as they obviously think alike. For CHRIST SAKE, this is a NEW Millenium, PEOPLE!!! Where does it state that People should be imprisoned for a controlled substance that does MUCH less Harm than Alcohol & tobacco(recent study from The British Journal of Medicine)??? More and more, the facts speak for themselves. It makes NO Sense what-so-ever to lock up an innocent citizen for doing what comes naturally to ALL Animal life. There MUST be a reason why Deer are attracted to it, among many other mammals, Another FACT!!! See, deer aren't attracted to alcohol. I can clearly see that Our Drug Czar is just another Alcoholic Baldhead in a corrupt Government, which is still in J. Edgar Hoover's mentality. Why are Americans being cited, and arrested, and incarcerated for simple Pot possesion? If the Federal Government ever got up to speed with the rest of the World, this Country would be WAY better off. It makes NO sense what-so-ever to incarcerate someone for a simple non-violent drug offense. Do You know why there is Jail, and prison overcrowding??? That's right, NON-Violent Drug Offenders. Why do These Innocent folks get placed into prisons with VIOLENT offenders, and are turned into hardened criminals INSIDE this twisted Federal Prison system? This is The United States of America. Let's send a message to the rest of the World, that We are FAR from Stupid, and that We are NOT Ignorant. That when People enjoy THC, they are harming NO ONE. They are not getting into fights(Alcohol-related) They aren't causing Police problems like alcohol related offenses/activities do. If Marijuana was legal, then police departments can put more cops on more important cases, like homicides, burglaries, etc... I still do not understand why alcohol is legal, and a simple ALL-Natural plant that was placed on this earth for a reason (marijuana) is a bad thing. Let's compare. Alcohol related incidents, compared to Marijuana-related incidents, state by state. Now, I ask You America, Which one SHOULD be legalized, and which one shouldn't be? Yo, Yo, Drug Czar, put the drink down, and try something MUCH healthier for You. Maybe You'll live longer, and Your Liver will be in much better shape. Yeah, He prolly couldn't handle it, anyway.... Pea-brained alkies can be like that. Another thing, Alcohol has been proven to be a VERY Addictive, and fatally addictive(Cold-Turkey detox) drug, that is VERY Detrimental to the entire health of the individual, Not just the threat of Cirrhosis of the liver, due to acute alcoholism. Brain cells are destroyed, among many many other detrimental afflictions, associated with chronic alcoholism. It is a PHYSICAL ADDICTION, the same as heroin withdrawal, only much more dangerous. People have died due to the intense shock to the system cold-turkey detox causes on the alcohol addicted Human. Now, I ask You, WHY is alcohol legal, with so many health risks involved? Let's do another survey. Let's ask the incarcerated People in our Prison systems if Alcohol played any role in their arrest and/or conviction? Again, I ask You, WHY is alcohol legal? Why is a virtually harmless, and much more beneficial natural growing plant illegal? Compared to the LION alcohol, it is a mouse. I can't believe the sheer stupidity of the People that We elected into Government that still prefer to KEEP OUR PRISONS Full of NON-VIOLENT Drug offenders(Marijuana-related). Apparently there is more money in building More prisons, and ruining People's Lives, than in actually helping this Country, and what the PEOPLE TRULY WANT!!! LISTEN TO US, WE PUT YOU IN The position You are in, NOW do what We elected You for. To make this HOME of OURS safe, secure, and free of unneccessary drug arrests that does nothing but ruin this country. If marijuana was legal, there wouldn't be as much gang-war activities over "drug-turf". It would free up Police to go after real crimes against Our Homes, safety and well-being. Come On America, Let's stop putting People away for simple possession of a natural occurring plant. It harms WAY more People when it is kept illegal, and innocent non-violent drug offenders of afore mentioned plant, are turned into violent criminals in this prison system. All for enjoying what Humans have enjoyed for millenia. I'm appalled at the way our Goverment takes a dim look at marijuana. What, they never tried it? If this drug czar had his way, he would do what his old kronie J. Edgar would do; LOCK UP EVERYONE that has ever used it. That'll teach 'em.... Teach Us what? That our Goverment is so blind to the facts that they would prefer to ruin someone's life, than give the People what they have wanted for a very long time. To be simply left alone. HEY, lets save a lot of money, and even make some money. LEGALIZE IT. Hemp is a very important renewable resource. It is used in clothing manufacturing, Construction materials(Hemp-Board is like 5 times or more stronger than Ply-wood, and cheaper to make), making paper, bio-fuels, cosmetics, and the list goes on. What America NEEDS is something that is inexpensive to grow, and creates jobs, and revenue. HEMP. Turn it into a cash crop. Our Founding Fathers knew the importance of Hemp. That was why they all grew it. That's right. They all did. I just cannot understand why hemp isn't a cash crop to the dwindling farmers in this country, today. If they had something more valuable to grow, I'm sure they would. H E M P. It is easy to grow, it matures rather quickly(Short growing season), and doesn't harm the soil, or the environment. We could be the World leading producer of Hemp, Hemp related Products, and hemp research. Did You know Ford experimented with Hemp polymers in manufacturing stronger, lighter Car Bodies? The possibilities are endless. For one thing, Our forests won't have to be wiped out for our need of wood, and wood products. Hemp would alleviate some of the dependencies on wood, and save our forests, which are being cut down at an alarming rate. The trees that are replanted, are mostly non-native trees that grow faster, for harvesting of more wood. If Hemp replaced this, then there wouldn't be such a need for wood. Forests are saved, some lumber jobs are ended, but many new jobs are created from growing, and harvesting Hemp, and everyone is happy. I know this is a lengthy note, but the facts are there. This problem with prison overcrowding, the ruined lives of GOOD Law-abiding citizens, and "Criminalizing" these innocent People all over the nation due to one harmless plant is unneccessary, uncalled for, and just .... STUPID. Come On America, let's leave the dark ages behind, and lets make America a Country where EVERYONE is TRULY Proud to say, "I'm an American, and Proud of it"... Until America gets out of the dark ages, then More innocent lives are ruined, and for what? This 20 millionth Pot bust is an embarrassing thing, and I can see why this has been kept, for the most part, out of the main media. We are embarrassed that We still put non-violent drug offenders behind bars for simple possession. Yeah, this 20 millionth Pot bust is truly a black eye on the American Public....What a shame.. Come on law-makers, ("Crazy alcoholic baldheads") put down the drink, and light up, and/or leave me(US) alone.... NOW is the time to legalize a beneficial plant, NOW is the time for change. Let's do it before it gets more late, as it has been far too late in coming, already. Lets Make America GREEN!!!! By Green, I mean MORE $$$ for EVERYONE!!!! So, what do We have here? Ignorance. Ignorance to the facts. The Drug Czar must Be Old J. Edgar Hoover’s Kin-folk, as they obviously think alike. For CHRIST SAKE, this is a NEW Millenium, PEOPLE!!! Where does it state that People should be imprisoned for a controlled substance that does MUCH less Harm than Alcohol & tobacco(recent study from The British Journal of Medicine)??? More and more, the facts speak for themselves. It makes NO Sense what-so-ever to lock up an innocent citizen for doing what comes naturally to ALL Animal life. There MUST be a reason why Deer are attracted to it, among many other mammals, Another FACT!!! See, deer aren’t attracted to alcohol. I can clearly see that Our Drug Czar is just another Alcoholic Baldhead in a corrupt Government, which is still in J. Edgar Hoover’s mentality. Why are Americans being cited, and arrested, and incarcerated for simple Pot possesion? If the Federal Government ever got up to speed with the rest of the World, this Country would be WAY better off. It makes NO sense what-so-ever to incarcerate someone for a simple non-violent drug offense. Do You know why there is Jail, and prison overcrowding??? That’s right, NON-Violent Drug Offenders. Why do These Innocent folks get placed into prisons with VIOLENT offenders, and are turned into hardened criminals INSIDE this twisted Federal Prison system? This is The United States of America. Let’s send a message to the rest of the World, that We are FAR from Stupid, and that We are NOT Ignorant. That when People enjoy THC, they are harming NO ONE. They are not getting into fights(Alcohol-related) They aren’t causing Police problems like alcohol related offenses/activities do. If Marijuana was legal, then police departments can put more cops on more important cases, like homicides, burglaries, etc… I still do not understand why alcohol is legal, and a simple ALL-Natural plant that was placed on this earth for a reason (marijuana) is a bad thing. Let’s compare. Alcohol related incidents, compared to Marijuana-related incidents, state by state. Now, I ask You America, Which one SHOULD be legalized, and which one shouldn’t be? Yo, Yo, Drug Czar, put the drink down, and try something MUCH healthier for You. Maybe You’ll live longer, and Your Liver will be in much better shape. Yeah, He prolly couldn’t handle it, anyway…. Pea-brained alkies can be like that. Another thing, Alcohol has been proven to be a VERY Addictive, and fatally addictive(Cold-Turkey detox) drug, that is VERY Detrimental to the entire health of the individual, Not just the threat of Cirrhosis of the liver, due to acute alcoholism. Brain cells are destroyed, among many many other detrimental afflictions, associated with chronic alcoholism. It is a PHYSICAL ADDICTION, the same as heroin withdrawal, only much more dangerous. People have died due to the intense shock to the system cold-turkey detox causes on the alcohol addicted Human. Now, I ask You, WHY is alcohol legal, with so many health risks involved? Let’s do another survey. Let’s ask the incarcerated People in our Prison systems if Alcohol played any role in their arrest and/or conviction? Again, I ask You, WHY is alcohol legal? Why is a virtually harmless, and much more beneficial natural growing plant illegal? Compared to the LION alcohol, it is a mouse. I can’t believe the sheer stupidity of the People that We elected into Government that still prefer to KEEP OUR PRISONS Full of NON-VIOLENT Drug offenders(Marijuana-related). Apparently there is more money in building More prisons, and ruining People’s Lives, than in actually helping this Country, and what the PEOPLE TRULY WANT!!! LISTEN TO US, WE PUT YOU IN The position You are in, NOW do what We elected You for. To make this HOME of OURS safe, secure, and free of unneccessary drug arrests that does nothing but ruin this country. If marijuana was legal, there wouldn’t be as much gang-war activities over “drug-turf”. It would free up Police to go after real crimes against Our Homes, safety and well-being. Come On America, Let’s stop putting People away for simple possession of a natural occurring plant. It harms WAY more People when it is kept illegal, and innocent non-violent drug offenders of afore mentioned plant, are turned into violent criminals in this prison system. All for enjoying what Humans have enjoyed for millenia. I’m appalled at the way our Goverment takes a dim look at marijuana. What, they never tried it? If this drug czar had his way, he would do what his old kronie J. Edgar would do; LOCK UP EVERYONE that has ever used it. That’ll teach ‘em…. Teach Us what? That our Goverment is so blind to the facts that they would prefer to ruin someone’s life, than give the People what they have wanted for a very long time. To be simply left alone. HEY, lets save a lot of money, and even make some money. LEGALIZE IT.
Hemp is a very important renewable resource. It is used in clothing manufacturing, Construction materials(Hemp-Board is like 5 times or more stronger than Ply-wood, and cheaper to make), making paper, bio-fuels, cosmetics, and the list goes on. What America NEEDS is something that is inexpensive to grow, and creates jobs, and revenue. HEMP. Turn it into a cash crop. Our Founding Fathers knew the importance of Hemp. That was why they all grew it. That’s right. They all did. I just cannot understand why hemp isn’t a cash crop to the dwindling farmers in this country, today. If they had something more valuable to grow, I’m sure they would. H E M P. It is easy to grow, it matures rather quickly(Short growing season), and doesn’t harm the soil, or the environment. We could be the World leading producer of Hemp, Hemp related Products, and hemp research. Did You know Ford experimented with Hemp polymers in manufacturing stronger, lighter Car Bodies? The possibilities are endless. For one thing, Our forests won’t have to be wiped out for our need of wood, and wood products. Hemp would alleviate some of the dependencies on wood, and save our forests, which are being cut down at an alarming rate. The trees that are replanted, are mostly non-native trees that grow faster, for harvesting of more wood. If Hemp replaced this, then there wouldn’t be such a need for wood. Forests are saved, some lumber jobs are ended, but many new jobs are created from growing, and harvesting Hemp, and everyone is happy. I know this is a lengthy note, but the facts are there. This problem with prison overcrowding, the ruined lives of GOOD Law-abiding citizens, and “Criminalizing” these innocent People all over the nation due to one harmless plant is unneccessary, uncalled for, and just …. STUPID. Come On America, let’s leave the dark ages behind, and lets make America a Country where EVERYONE is TRULY Proud to say, “I’m an American, and Proud of it”… Until America gets out of the dark ages, then More innocent lives are ruined, and for what? This 20 millionth Pot bust is an embarrassing thing, and I can see why this has been kept, for the most part, out of the main media. We are embarrassed that We still put non-violent drug offenders behind bars for simple possession. Yeah, this 20 millionth Pot bust is truly a black eye on the American Public….What a shame.. Come on law-makers, (”Crazy alcoholic baldheads”) put down the drink, and light up, and/or leave me(US) alone…. NOW is the time to legalize a beneficial plant, NOW is the time for change. Let’s do it before it gets more late, as it has been far too late in coming, already. Lets Make America GREEN!!!! By Green, I mean MORE $$$ for EVERYONE!!!!

]]> By: ATM http://blog.norml.org/2008/09/16/the-irony-and-the-idiocy/#comment-3788 ATM Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:32:54 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/2008/09/16/the-irony-and-the-idiocy/#comment-3788 I must be one of those rare unicorns I must be one of those rare unicorns

]]> By: Matt http://blog.norml.org/2008/09/16/the-irony-and-the-idiocy/#comment-3666 Matt Sun, 21 Sep 2008 17:02:29 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/2008/09/16/the-irony-and-the-idiocy/#comment-3666 Shit like this makes me want to seriously either lock and load or pick up and move from this fucked country to amsterdam. It's too bad I have a good career and a wonderful family here in the US. Otherwise, it would not even be something I'd think about twice. I guess I'll go down with the ship that big government is sinking. Lets just spend our way out of our problems. It seemed to work with Iraq... spending half a trillion + dollars on this bailout should work too? Hell, let's amp up the "war on drugs too" they could use a few more billions while you got people in the US losing their homes and going hungry. This country makes me sick and it's the fault of stupid party line loyalists who lack the ability to think for theirselves and question their goverment's fault. How dare you, America! I wish we could wipe our nations federal laws, and start over with the constitution the way it was meant to be interpreted. Our founding father's would hang their heads in shame when they see what their vision has devolved into. For being so dead set against socialism and communism, we are just a few more Bush bills away from making it a reality. Free MaRket is dead. Individual freedom is dead. What is left? The right to bear arms? Shit like this makes me want to seriously either lock and load or pick up and move from this fucked country to amsterdam. It’s too bad I have a good career and a wonderful family here in the US. Otherwise, it would not even be something I’d think about twice. I guess I’ll go down with the ship that big government is sinking.

Lets just spend our way out of our problems. It seemed to work with Iraq… spending half a trillion + dollars on this bailout should work too? Hell, let’s amp up the “war on drugs too” they could use a few more billions while you got people in the US losing their homes and going hungry. This country makes me sick and it’s the fault of stupid party line loyalists who lack the ability to think for theirselves and question their goverment’s fault. How dare you, America! I wish we could wipe our nations federal laws, and start over with the constitution the way it was meant to be interpreted. Our founding father’s would hang their heads in shame when they see what their vision has devolved into.

For being so dead set against socialism and communism, we are just a few more Bush bills away from making it a reality. Free MaRket is dead. Individual freedom is dead. What is left? The right to bear arms?

]]> By: Dave http://blog.norml.org/2008/09/16/the-irony-and-the-idiocy/#comment-3620 Dave Sat, 20 Sep 2008 23:15:53 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/2008/09/16/the-irony-and-the-idiocy/#comment-3620 I guess thats another big fat lie, I didnt dream I was in prison for pot, it was unadvised people like you that lie and you will be judged, remember that I guess thats another big fat lie, I didnt dream I was in prison for pot, it was unadvised people like you that lie and you will be judged, remember that

]]> By: Johnny in Anaheim CA http://blog.norml.org/2008/09/16/the-irony-and-the-idiocy/#comment-3568 Johnny in Anaheim CA Sat, 20 Sep 2008 05:43:13 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/2008/09/16/the-irony-and-the-idiocy/#comment-3568 Not only protect the market for alcohol pushers but the pharmaceutical chemical drug pushers and "doctors" too. Come to think of it many many industries, lumber, synthetics like Dupont which use petro based for plastics, lots of industries would either fall or be hurt really bad. Survivors would switch others would just fade into nothing. Our current government has recently shown its true face of fascism by taking over corporations, at first they were subtle with their fascism only allowing corporations to buy them out, now they are taking over corporations too, but only because of the same thing.. I could go on forever about this subject so I won't. Instead of geting worked up here I'm going to Americans For Safe Access meeting in Hollywood tomorrow and getting involved like another very wise poster suggested: Louis I.forgot... kudos for trying to educate and get people motivated to pick up their cell phone for something that WILL benifit them or write an email that IS important. Im sure if people that can use a computer to write email and surf the web and think like we do all actually did something, we wouldnt need to be here posting this.. just a thought. Remember to always harrass your public servants, they ARE your servants, act like it. Not only protect the market for alcohol pushers but the pharmaceutical chemical drug pushers and “doctors” too. Come to think of it many many industries, lumber, synthetics like Dupont which use petro based for plastics, lots of industries would either fall or be hurt really bad. Survivors would switch others would just fade into nothing. Our current government has recently shown its true face of fascism by taking over corporations, at first they were subtle with their fascism only allowing corporations to buy them out, now they are taking over corporations too, but only because of the same thing.. I could go on forever about this subject so I won’t. Instead of geting worked up here I’m going to Americans For Safe Access meeting in Hollywood tomorrow and getting involved like another very wise poster suggested: Louis I.forgot… kudos for trying to educate and get people motivated to pick up their cell phone for something that WILL benifit them or write an email that IS important. Im sure if people that can use a computer to write email and surf the web and think like we do all actually did something, we wouldnt need to be here posting this.. just a thought. Remember to always harrass your public servants, they ARE your servants, act like it.

]]> By: Rick http://blog.norml.org/2008/09/16/the-irony-and-the-idiocy/#comment-3512 Rick Fri, 19 Sep 2008 05:22:33 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/2008/09/16/the-irony-and-the-idiocy/#comment-3512 Apparently, someone has to protect the market for alcohol pushers Apparently, someone has to protect the market for alcohol pushers

]]> By: Louis I.forgot http://blog.norml.org/2008/09/16/the-irony-and-the-idiocy/#comment-3508 Louis I.forgot Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:35:47 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/2008/09/16/the-irony-and-the-idiocy/#comment-3508 We ALL need to be involved, in whatever way we can, to put an end to this Crap. My god, I'm 63 years old and I'm STILL fighting the goddamn control freaks out there, those who think they know best how to live YOUR life. It's election time, and it may or may not make a difference , BUT if Cannabis law reform is important to you , you need to vote for the candidates that have a record of support for that cause . From what I have read Obama/ Biden will NOT do a thing to change the way things are.In fact Biden is one of the biggest assholes that has helped make the laws what they are to-day. McCain/ Pallin pretty much suck also , BUT at least Pallin has some history with pot , and is the Governor of a State that supports Medical Marijuana, so maybe she will enlighten McCain ??? You can vote for Paul or maybe Barr, they at least have a position regarding Marijuana use, but we all know they don't have a snowballs chance in hell of being elected. I guess you could vote for them and at least be able to say for the next four years " Hey, don't blame me , I voted for ****"and feel SMUG about it. My 2 cents worth, forget about the National leaders doing anything , ACT LOCALLY, Get involved with the local NORML , OR similar organization, work on your own states laws , if your state does not have a Medical Marijuana Law , work on getting it. Can you imagine, if ALL of the states had a Medical Marijuana law , how could the Federal Gov't go against that ? Enough already ! , time to go take a relaxing break. We ALL need to be involved, in whatever way we can, to put an end to this Crap. My god, I’m 63 years old and I’m STILL fighting the goddamn control freaks out there, those who think they know best how to live YOUR life. It’s election time, and it may or may not make a difference , BUT if Cannabis law reform is important to you , you need to vote for the candidates that have a record of support for that cause . From what I have read Obama/ Biden will NOT do a thing to change the way things are.In fact Biden is one of the biggest assholes that has helped make the laws what they are to-day. McCain/ Pallin pretty much suck also , BUT at least Pallin has some history with pot , and is the Governor of a State that supports Medical Marijuana, so maybe she will enlighten McCain ??? You can vote for Paul or maybe Barr, they at least have a position regarding Marijuana use, but we all know they don’t have a snowballs chance in hell of being elected. I guess you could vote for them and at least be able to say for the next four years ” Hey, don’t blame me , I voted for ****”and feel SMUG about it. My 2 cents worth, forget about the National leaders doing anything , ACT LOCALLY, Get involved with the local NORML , OR similar organization, work on your own states laws , if your state does not have a Medical Marijuana Law , work on getting it. Can you imagine, if ALL of the states had a Medical Marijuana law , how could the Federal Gov’t go against that ?
Enough already ! , time to go take a relaxing break.

]]> By: Paul Csuhta http://blog.norml.org/2008/09/16/the-irony-and-the-idiocy/#comment-3468 Paul Csuhta Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:07:50 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/2008/09/16/the-irony-and-the-idiocy/#comment-3468 Fiscal irresponsible policy by our elected officials is distroying our county. It supports an industry of lawyers, prisons and the court system while the average working class suffers for it. Stop making criminals out of good people and get rid of these narrow minded individuals and support NORML! Fiscal irresponsible policy by our elected officials is distroying our county. It supports an industry of lawyers, prisons and the court system while the average working class suffers for it. Stop making criminals out of good people and get rid of these narrow minded individuals and support NORML!

]]> By: bgrammer http://blog.norml.org/2008/09/16/the-irony-and-the-idiocy/#comment-3460 bgrammer Thu, 18 Sep 2008 06:44:32 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/2008/09/16/the-irony-and-the-idiocy/#comment-3460 i'm on 5 years probation for 2 ounces!!they tried to give me 3 years prison!! i had to fight for 2 years in court with an expensive lawyer!! i can't even go home to NM!! come to FL on vacation go home a convicted felon 7 years later!!!!! i’m on 5 years probation for 2 ounces!!they tried to give me 3 years prison!! i had to fight for 2 years in court with an expensive lawyer!! i can’t even go home to NM!! come to FL on vacation go home a convicted felon 7 years later!!!!!

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