Comments on: More Signs Of Change From Capitol Hill http://blog.norml.org/2009/04/23/more-signs-of-change-from-capitol-hill/ Working to reform marijuana laws Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:58:52 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: David Ertel http://blog.norml.org/2009/04/23/more-signs-of-change-from-capitol-hill/comment-page-2/#comment-36119 David Ertel Thu, 07 May 2009 18:47:20 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/?p=682#comment-36119 I would like to see Ohio added to this list and voted on as well, thank you I would like to see Ohio added to this list and voted on as well, thank you

]]> By: sameer http://blog.norml.org/2009/04/23/more-signs-of-change-from-capitol-hill/comment-page-2/#comment-34693 sameer Fri, 01 May 2009 21:23:43 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/?p=682#comment-34693 My point is that its a game. Washington has a game it plays. The efforts of many over time have helped to keep the propaganda machine from claiming Vietnam body count victories at every turn. They have made people more aware of the problem. Like so many dynamic problems, sometimes they need to hit rock bottom or be so out of proportion to be noticed by everyone. The people I interact with were decrying fraud with real estate starting around 2000-2002. Not early by some estimates but they were definitely throwing huge amounts of influence and making their money move around in anticipation of a reversal. Sad thing is that most people blissfully ignored those pundits and we all helped to create one aspect of a nifty problem. Now, of course, we are all aware of the fallacy of that problem. Sir, I hope I haven’t wasted both of our time. But again, I urge you to take a common sense look at this issue. Let’s stop wasting money enforcing a law that has no grounds. Lets take the smart approach and make a positive step as the government, as the state, as citizens, as individuals. “Promises which cannot be kept must not be made. The public must be apprised that disapproved drug use is part of a larger social pattern, and that all the money and effort that the American society can muster will never be able to deal effectively with this behavior if the problem continues to be defined as it is now. Drug policy making must take into account a wide range of social phenomena of which drug use is a small part, and institutional responses must be framed in the context of broader social roles. Unless present policy is redirected, we will perpetuate the same problems, tolerate the same social costs, and find ourselves as we do now, no further along the road to a more rational legal and social approach than we were in 1914.” Respectfully submitted, ================================ mike My point is that its a game. Washington has a game it plays. The efforts of many over time have helped to keep the propaganda machine from claiming Vietnam body count victories at every turn. They have made people more aware of the problem.

Like so many dynamic problems, sometimes they need to hit rock bottom or be so out of proportion to be noticed by everyone. The people I interact with were decrying fraud with real estate starting around 2000-2002. Not early by some estimates but they were definitely throwing huge amounts of influence and making their money move around in anticipation of a reversal. Sad thing is that most people blissfully ignored those pundits and we all helped to create one aspect of a nifty problem. Now, of course, we are all aware of the fallacy of that problem.

Sir, I hope I haven’t wasted both of our time. But again, I urge you to take a common sense look at this issue. Let’s stop wasting money enforcing a law that has no grounds. Lets take the smart approach and make a positive step as the government, as the state, as citizens, as individuals. “Promises which cannot be kept must not be made. The public must be apprised that disapproved drug use is part of a larger social pattern, and that all the money and effort that the American society can muster will never be able to deal effectively with this behavior if the problem continues to be defined as it is now. Drug policy making must take into account a wide range of social phenomena of which drug use is a small part, and institutional responses must be framed in the context of broader social roles. Unless present policy is redirected, we will perpetuate the same problems, tolerate the same social costs, and find ourselves as we do now, no further along the road to a more rational legal and social approach than we were in 1914.”

Respectfully submitted,
================================
mike

]]> By: sameer http://blog.norml.org/2009/04/23/more-signs-of-change-from-capitol-hill/comment-page-2/#comment-34692 sameer Fri, 01 May 2009 21:23:05 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/?p=682#comment-34692 My point is that its a game. Washington has a game it plays. The efforts of many over time have helped to keep the propaganda machine from claiming Vietnam body count victories at every turn. They have made people more aware of the problem. Like so many dynamic problems, sometimes they need to hit rock bottom or be so out of proportion to be noticed by everyone. The people I interact with were decrying fraud with real estate starting around 2000-2002. Not early by some estimates but they were definitely throwing huge amounts of influence and making their money move around in anticipation of a reversal. Sad thing is that most people blissfully ignored those pundits and we all helped to create one aspect of a nifty problem. Now, of course, we are all aware of the fallacy of that problem. Sir, I hope I haven’t wasted both of our time. But again, I urge you to take a common sense look at this issue. Let’s stop wasting money enforcing a law that has no grounds. Lets take the smart approach and make a positive step as the government, as the state, as citizens, as individuals. “Promises which cannot be kept must not be made. The public must be apprised that disapproved drug use is part of a larger social pattern, and that all the money and effort that the American society can muster will never be able to deal effectively with this behavior if the problem continues to be defined as it is now. Drug policy making must take into account a wide range of social phenomena of which drug use is a small part, and institutional responses must be framed in the context of broader social roles. Unless present policy is redirected, we will perpetuate the same problems, tolerate the same social costs, and find ourselves as we do now, no further along the road to a more rational legal and social approach than we were in 1914.” Respectfully submitted, ================================ mike My point is that its a game. Washington has a game it plays. The efforts of many over time have helped to keep the propaganda machine from claiming Vietnam body count victories at every turn. They have made people more aware of the problem.

Like so many dynamic problems, sometimes they need to hit rock bottom or be so out of proportion to be noticed by everyone. The people I interact with were decrying fraud with real estate starting around 2000-2002. Not early by some estimates but they were definitely throwing huge amounts of influence and making their money move around in anticipation of a reversal. Sad thing is that most people blissfully ignored those pundits and we all helped to create one aspect of a nifty problem. Now, of course, we are all aware of the fallacy of that problem.

Sir, I hope I haven’t wasted both of our time. But again, I urge you to take a common sense look at this issue. Let’s stop wasting money enforcing a law that has no grounds. Lets take the smart approach and make a positive step as the government, as the state, as citizens, as individuals. “Promises which cannot be kept must not be made. The public must be apprised that disapproved drug use is part of a larger social pattern, and that all the money and effort that the American society can muster will never be able to deal effectively with this behavior if the problem continues to be defined as it is now. Drug policy making must take into account a wide range of social phenomena of which drug use is a small part, and institutional responses must be framed in the context of broader social roles. Unless present policy is redirected, we will perpetuate the same problems, tolerate the same social costs, and find ourselves as we do now, no further along the road to a more rational legal and social approach than we were in 1914.”

Respectfully submitted,
================================
mike

]]> By: sameer http://blog.norml.org/2009/04/23/more-signs-of-change-from-capitol-hill/comment-page-2/#comment-34690 sameer Fri, 01 May 2009 21:19:49 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/?p=682#comment-34690 Sir, I hope I haven’t wasted both of our time. But again, I urge you to take a common sense look at this issue. Let’s stop wasting money enforcing a law that has no grounds. Lets take the smart approach and make a positive step as the government, as the state, as citizens, as individuals. “Promises which cannot be kept must not be made. The public must be apprised that disapproved drug use is part of a larger social pattern, and that all the money and effort that the American society can muster will never be able to deal effectively with this behavior if the problem continues to be defined as it is now. Drug policy making must take into account a wide range of social phenomena of which drug use is a small part, and institutional responses must be framed in the context of broader social roles. Unless present policy is redirected, we will perpetuate the same problems, tolerate the same social costs, and find ourselves as we do now, no further along the road to a more rational legal and social approach than we were in 1914.” Respectfully submitted, ================================ mike Sir, I hope I haven’t wasted both of our time. But again, I urge you to take a common sense look at this issue. Let’s stop wasting money enforcing a law that has no grounds. Lets take the smart approach and make a positive step as the government, as the state, as citizens, as individuals. “Promises which cannot be kept must not be made. The public must be apprised that disapproved drug use is part of a larger social pattern, and that all the money and effort that the American society can muster will never be able to deal effectively with this behavior if the problem continues to be defined as it is now. Drug policy making must take into account a wide range of social phenomena of which drug use is a small part, and institutional responses must be framed in the context of broader social roles. Unless present policy is redirected, we will perpetuate the same problems, tolerate the same social costs, and find ourselves as we do now, no further along the road to a more rational legal and social approach than we were in 1914.”

Respectfully submitted,
================================
mike

]]> By: sameer http://blog.norml.org/2009/04/23/more-signs-of-change-from-capitol-hill/comment-page-2/#comment-34686 sameer Fri, 01 May 2009 21:16:07 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/?p=682#comment-34686 The legalization of marijuana is not going to happen until the corruption in the U.S. government stops. So, its NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN! Politicians are mostly old, racist, senile white assholes who have completely lost touch with what their job duties are. sSuch as doing whats right for the country,Our past leaders enjoyed cannabis as well as our present ones. Sir, can’t we stop this merry go round? Every day non-violent PEOPLE, not criminals, are put in jail for recreation. Though I’m guilty of it, I don’t condone people who drive under any influence. It’s flat out wrong. And I’ve seen good people get busted for that. But that’s not what I’m talking about. I am talking about responsible use of marijuana by adults. When you step back, it’s really simple. People are going to do it either way. I’m not suggesting you admit defeat, I’m suggesting that you capitalize. Look at our roads. Look at our education system. Could we not use money to fix our legitimate problems? Legalization and taxation of cannabis could go so much further than some preconception of hippies doing nothing. It could provide a non-aggressive recreation for good people. Taxation and regulation could keep good people from having to go to drug dealers that deal indiscriminately regardless of age, race, sex, etc. If my words aren’t falling on deaf ears, and you actually look into cannabis and its many uses, you’ll see for yourself how much potential this natural plant has. Sir, I hope I haven’t wasted both of our time. But again, I urge you to take a common sense look at this issue. Let’s stop wasting money enforcing a law that has no grounds. Lets take the smart approach and make a positive step as the government, as the state, as citizens, as individuals. “Promises which cannot be kept must not be made. The public must be apprised that disapproved drug use is part of a larger social pattern, and that all the money and effort that the American society can muster will never be able to deal effectively with this behavior if the problem continues to be defined as it is now. Drug policy making must take into account a wide range of social phenomena of which drug use is a small part, and institutional responses must be framed in the context of broader social roles. Unless present policy is redirected, we will perpetuate the same problems, tolerate the same social costs, and find ourselves as we do now, no further along the road to a more rational legal and social approach than we were in 1914.” Respectfully submitted, ================================ mike The legalization of marijuana is not going to happen until the corruption in the U.S. government stops.
So, its NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN!
Politicians are mostly old, racist, senile white assholes who have completely lost touch with what their job duties are. sSuch as doing whats right for the country,Our past leaders enjoyed cannabis as well as our present ones. Sir, can’t we stop this merry go round? Every day non-violent PEOPLE, not criminals, are put in jail for recreation. Though I’m guilty of it, I don’t condone people who drive under any influence. It’s flat out wrong. And I’ve seen good people get busted for that. But that’s not what I’m talking about. I am talking about responsible use of marijuana by adults. When you step back, it’s really simple. People are going to do it either way. I’m not suggesting you admit defeat, I’m suggesting that you capitalize. Look at our roads. Look at our education system. Could we not use money to fix our legitimate problems? Legalization and taxation of cannabis could go so much further than some preconception of hippies doing nothing. It could provide a non-aggressive recreation for good people. Taxation and regulation could keep good people from having to go to drug dealers that deal indiscriminately regardless of age, race, sex, etc. If my words aren’t falling on deaf ears, and you actually look into cannabis and its many uses, you’ll see for yourself how much potential this natural plant has.

Sir, I hope I haven’t wasted both of our time. But again, I urge you to take a common sense look at this issue. Let’s stop wasting money enforcing a law that has no grounds. Lets take the smart approach and make a positive step as the government, as the state, as citizens, as individuals. “Promises which cannot be kept must not be made. The public must be apprised that disapproved drug use is part of a larger social pattern, and that all the money and effort that the American society can muster will never be able to deal effectively with this behavior if the problem continues to be defined as it is now. Drug policy making must take into account a wide range of social phenomena of which drug use is a small part, and institutional responses must be framed in the context of broader social roles. Unless present policy is redirected, we will perpetuate the same problems, tolerate the same social costs, and find ourselves as we do now, no further along the road to a more rational legal and social approach than we were in 1914.”

Respectfully submitted,
================================
mike

]]> By: Supporter http://blog.norml.org/2009/04/23/more-signs-of-change-from-capitol-hill/comment-page-2/#comment-34172 Supporter Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:53:42 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/?p=682#comment-34172 Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer said the administration believes Congress' goal "should be to completely eliminate the disparity" between the two forms of cocaine. "A growing number of citizens view it as fundamentally unfair," Breuer testified. Breuer said the best way to deal with violence is to severely punish anyone who commits a violent offense, regardless of the drug involved. "This administration believes our criminal laws should be tough, smart, fair," Breuer said, but also should "promote public trust and confidence in the criminal justice system." Walton said, "We were mistaken" to enact the disparity. "There's no greater violence in cases before me." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30479677/ If they can see the mistake in the sentencing laws, and instead of lowering the sentence for possesion of crack they could have raised the sentence for cocaine... That is a positive sign for them to hopefully re-evaluate their position on marijuana. Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer said the administration believes Congress’ goal “should be to completely eliminate the disparity” between the two forms of cocaine. “A growing number of citizens view it as fundamentally unfair,” Breuer testified.

Breuer said the best way to deal with violence is to severely punish anyone who commits a violent offense, regardless of the drug involved.

“This administration believes our criminal laws should be tough, smart, fair,” Breuer said, but also should “promote public trust and confidence in the criminal justice system.”

Walton said, “We were mistaken” to enact the disparity. “There’s no greater violence in cases before me.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30479677/

If they can see the mistake in the sentencing laws, and instead of lowering the sentence for possesion of crack they could have raised the sentence for cocaine… That is a positive sign for them to hopefully re-evaluate their position on marijuana.

]]> By: Vote Like A Beast http://blog.norml.org/2009/04/23/more-signs-of-change-from-capitol-hill/comment-page-2/#comment-33923 Vote Like A Beast Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:55:48 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/?p=682#comment-33923 Maybe next time Ron Paul is on a call in show we can ask him if he's against all MJ laws or just Federal Laws. Maybe he's didn't endorse Chuck Baldwin for President. Maybe the Constitution Party didn't mean it in their Platform. “The Constitution Party will uphold the right of states and localities to restrict access to drugs and to enforce such restrictions.” Maybe the Moral Majority Types like Chuck Baldwin will let smoke MJ in Peace. Then again, Maybe not. Maybe next time Ron Paul is on a call in show we can ask him if he’s against all MJ laws or just Federal Laws.
Maybe he’s didn’t endorse Chuck Baldwin for President.
Maybe the Constitution Party didn’t mean it in their Platform.
“The Constitution Party will uphold the right of states and localities to restrict access to drugs and to enforce such restrictions.”
Maybe the Moral Majority Types like Chuck Baldwin will let smoke MJ in Peace.
Then again, Maybe not.

]]> By: zippy http://blog.norml.org/2009/04/23/more-signs-of-change-from-capitol-hill/comment-page-2/#comment-33519 zippy Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:09:11 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/?p=682#comment-33519 All the celebrities, all the bullshit politics, it still comes down to money if you want to make a politician move, example, just got a letter from my local congressman thanking me for all the help on his campaign and monies dontated, but our work is not done he says, I need your support, 75.00, 100.00, 200.00 or more, please donate so we can finish our work. I called his office and spoke to his lackey, letting them know until he supports a bill that will abolish all penaties for cultivation up to 100 plants in any stage, and I mean no federal prosecution either, I will not donate one red cent to his cause, the lackey seemed a little taken aback by my statement, he asked me what would happen if everyone had that attitude, I calmly expalined his boss would not be in office, so if you want to keep getting fucked by a politician, just give them money and beleive the bullshit they feed you, if you want to get there ass in HIGH gear just tell them no more donations, it does have an effect. All the celebrities, all the bullshit politics, it still comes down to money if you want to make a politician move, example, just got a letter from my local congressman thanking me for all the help on his campaign and monies dontated, but our work is not done he says, I need your support, 75.00, 100.00, 200.00 or more, please donate so we can finish our work. I called his office and spoke to his lackey, letting them know until he supports a bill that will abolish all penaties for cultivation up to 100 plants in any stage, and I mean no federal prosecution either, I will not donate one red cent to his cause, the lackey seemed a little taken aback by my statement, he asked me what would happen if everyone had that attitude, I calmly expalined his boss would not be in office, so if you want to keep getting fucked by a politician, just give them money and beleive the bullshit they feed you, if you want to get there ass in HIGH gear just tell them no more donations, it does have an effect.

]]> By: Change? http://blog.norml.org/2009/04/23/more-signs-of-change-from-capitol-hill/comment-page-2/#comment-33109 Change? Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:47:35 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/?p=682#comment-33109 "Ron Paul is a VERY strict Constitutionalist and is against any federal Power not specified in the U.S. constitution. Nothing wrong with that. Under a Paulist administration you will not go to jail for violating Federal Law. You will be EXECUTED for violating God’s Law, as the Moral Majority chooses to define it." More scare tactics because the Obamabots are so disappointed in their leader. Anyone who reads Dr. Paul's writing or has been following his campaign knows this is ridiculous. Ron Paul is the only politician who talks common sense. If you are not familiar, please don't listen to this buffoon, and youtube some of his speaches, then go to www.campaignforliberty.com to see for yourself. “Ron Paul is a VERY strict Constitutionalist and is against any federal Power not specified in the U.S. constitution. Nothing wrong with that.
Under a Paulist administration you will not go to jail for violating Federal Law. You will be EXECUTED for violating God’s Law, as the Moral Majority chooses to define it.”

More scare tactics because the Obamabots are so disappointed in their leader. Anyone who reads Dr. Paul’s writing or has been following his campaign knows this is ridiculous. Ron Paul is the only politician who talks common sense. If you are not familiar, please don’t listen to this buffoon, and youtube some of his speaches, then go to http://www.campaignforliberty.com to see for yourself.

]]> By: Ray http://blog.norml.org/2009/04/23/more-signs-of-change-from-capitol-hill/comment-page-2/#comment-33051 Ray Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:01:52 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/?p=682#comment-33051 I'm not saying anyone should stop the GOOD FIGHT.. but Other than the date of 4/20 everyone needs to relax and recooperate some... I'm confined to a wheelchair and got pissed because someone told me I couldnt do digital art or create vids/slideshows because of my health.. That was the WRONG thing to do, was to tell me or any sick person they can't do anything...!! I, as well as MANY others REFUSE to LOSE/QUIT .. But we have caused alot of change to happen recently.. please dont stop.. but take a short break, and fill your tanks up again.. please watch this video get toked up/relax and maybe do what it says... Ray http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQcXifuF6d8 I’m not saying anyone should stop the GOOD FIGHT.. but Other than the date of 4/20 everyone needs to relax and recooperate some… I’m confined to a wheelchair and got pissed because someone told me I couldnt do digital art or create vids/slideshows because of my health.. That was the WRONG thing to do, was to tell me or any sick person they can’t do anything…!! I, as well as MANY others REFUSE to LOSE/QUIT .. But we have caused alot of change to happen recently.. please dont stop.. but take a short break, and fill your tanks up again.. please watch this video get toked up/relax and maybe do what it says…
Ray
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQcXifuF6d8

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