Comments on: The New York Times Debates Marijuana Law Reform — NORML Weighs In

By: Dawn

Dawn — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:56:56 +0000

Great quorum. It is refreshing to see this debate happening in the “mainstream.”

But the most frustrating thing about debates like this is when individuals who are anti-decriminalization (like Joel W. Hay, Mr. Pharma) spew the most vapid, unsubstantiated, hypocritical bullshit and no one calls them on it.

He didn’t provides sources for ANY of his arguments. His argument would get a big fat FAIL in any university. He has nothing to back up his opinions and his statistics are ridiculous, i.e. “Daily pot smokers have a 30 percent increased risk of accidents, and one study found that more emergency-department trauma admissions were associated with pot use than alcohol.” Wow Mr. Hay, thanks for letting me know about “one study,” without providing any info about the study. How about a title, an author, a date? Maybe you could tell me who sponsored this study? Does this study even EXIST? I have no way of knowing because clever Mr. Hay chose not to back up any of his claims.

But the saddest thing about all of this is: people accept arguments like this anyway. The mainstream news continuously exalts unsubstantiated claims about cannabis (and other things) and we just eat it up. It’s an insult to every reader’s intelligence and it is a brazen disregard for accuracy and objectivity.

So thank you, Mr. Armentano, for being the only person in the debate to cite your sources.

P.S. I also find it interesting that whenever a prohibitionist finally cites a source/study, it’s often 15-20 years old, and when someone arguing for decriminalization cites a source/study, it’s recent (0-5 years). Also, the 15-20 year old study has usually been subsequently debunked. Hilarious.

By: James D Hill

James D Hill — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 03:40:06 +0000

I went to the First Baptist Church in Sumner Washington
from 1979 to 1981 and the people there were good people but being a evangelical church they told me I was going to hell if I kept smoking pot.Well they were right.The Ronald Regan started his witch hunt called the war on drugs which basically got me thrown out of a promising drafting position at Boeing due to drug testing.Never mind that I was doing a great job.This was only 3 months after I bought a house.Glory to god the fanatics were prophets.I feel closer to god when I smoke and if it makes you stupid the how did the progressive rock band Yes play the most complicated music possible.Yes people can be smart and moral and still smoke pot.

By: James D Hill

James D Hill — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 03:07:15 +0000

To me its clear.If I can drink until my liver turns into crystal or smoke 4 packs a day until my lungs turn into rotted meat then why cant I smoke weed.We all know the moralistic right wing in this country blames pot for the anti war movement that got us out of the war in SE Asia.they dont care if they are hypocrites they will admit it.This is the time to push on while social conservitives are the minority otherwise we cant win.
Lets stop drug testing in this country the evil trick the Regan’s used to make pot smokers second class americans.

By: Manford Mantis

Manford Mantis — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:23:40 +0000

THEN WILL YOU HEAR ME NOW?
I am a Mantisite. I believe my creator and his gift to his creation of Manna as Holy Sacrament for CDXX Communion.
Genesis I:11,12
Genesis I:29,30,31
Genesis IX:3
No matter what religion one practices, if one believes in the above scriptures, which are found in every Bible, one is a Mantisite (omni-distinctional), but only if one claims to be so.

I Have faith in my creator, my Constitution, and myself. If a single Mantisite plant him or her self
indomitably on his or her instincts, and there abide,the huge world will come round to him or her.

By: aron pieman kay

aron pieman kay — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 02:10:04 +0000

legalize it

By: NeuroGenesis1:29

NeuroGenesis1:29 — Sat, 30 May 2009 01:18:57 +0000

The Drug Czar is required by law to lie: Drug War Rant news-article

By: NeuroGenesis1:29

NeuroGenesis1:29 — Fri, 29 May 2009 09:16:19 +0000

#66 Cherokee Fred Jesus Says:
May 27th, 2009 at 4:03 pm

Your right Jake I hate the right wing religious people.
They think they should tell you how to live your life…
Thank God Obama put a liberal on the supreme court.
We don’t need more nazies dictating how we live and
making decisions based on the Christian religion.
Just because I am Cherokee and worship mother earth
these people think I am a sinner.
I am not I feel we should live and let live and
not base our liberty on religion or right wing beliefs.

PUTTING AMERICANS IN JAIL FOR GROWING
OR USING OR BUYING OR SELLING A GOD GIVEN HERB
IS TYRANNY AND IGNORES OUR RIGHTS AS AMERICANS.
BECAUSE THE RIGHT WING CONSERVATIVES
WANT TO DICTATE HOW YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE..

Cherokee Fred Jesus

RE:
Cherokee Fred,
This reminds me of a bumper-sticker which read,
“The Christian Right is Neither”

- I’ve always found it ironic that SOME people professing
“Bible Belief” ignore and / or negate instructions from
the very first chapter of the very first book!!!

Genesis 1:29
(New King James Version)

And God said,
“See, I have given you every herb that
yields seed which is on the face of all the earth,
and every tree whose fruit yields seed;
to you it shall be for food.”

- I believe “food” also refers to the essential-oils,
(INCLUDING cannabinoids),
secreted by plants.
(As well as the seeds…)

(CANNABIS…
An EXOGENOUS source of
ENDOCANNABINOID supplementation…)

Therefore,
- Those responsible for and / or in favor of
keeping cannabis illegal
are guilty of grave-injustice,
or at best,
Biblical and Botanical ignorance.

1 Timothy 4
(New King James Version)

The Great Apostasy

1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times
some will depart from the faith,
giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,

2 speaking lies in hypocrisy,
having their own conscience seared with a hot iron,

3 forbidding to marry, and
commanding to abstain from foods which God created
to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.

4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused
if it is received with thanksgiving;

5 for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

Cherokee Fred,
- The right-wing Christian-religion
which seeks to make cannabis
and its partakers extinct is
counterfeit-Christianity,
pseudo-christianity…

A Religion Against Marijuana
(Christians Against Prohibition blog-article)

NORML PSA-VIDEO:
Be NORML, NOT deceived

2 Corinthians 3:17
(New King James Version)

“Now the Lord is the Spirit; and
where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.”

By: Wriston

Wriston — Fri, 29 May 2009 01:01:19 +0000

Mike Braun like his reefers laced with LSD, but I think that’s more effective when freebased

By: Cliff

Cliff — Thu, 28 May 2009 21:07:36 +0000

Dorland’s Illustrated Medical Dictionary 30th edition

marijuana 1. Cannabis sativa 2. a crude preparation of the leaves and flowering tops of C. sativa, usually employed in cigarettes and inhaled as smoke for its euphoric properties.

If this plant is harmful why doesn’t it say so in the medical dictionary? Because it is not. For me it is that simple. Dorland claims to be the first and the last word in medicine. It is the higher education standard and its definitions are universal. That is good enough for me.

By: Emanuele Allegretta

Emanuele Allegretta — Thu, 28 May 2009 17:59:00 +0000

I feel that it should be leagle too.
Besides, how do I know that some of theses governmant ppl don’t puff. Please the police do.
That would be cool if NY leaglized weed. It’s not like you cant get it, its NY.

peace