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	<title>Comments on: The Feds&#8217; Position On Medical Pot: Organic = Bad, Organix = Good; Any Questions?</title>
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		<title>By: NeuroGenesis1:29</title>
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		<dc:creator>NeuroGenesis1:29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#157 The Skeptical Floridian Says:
June 6th, 2009 at 1:15 am
…I hope this planet burns away into nothing.

RE:
If nothing better happens,
THAT would be the BEST thing to
happen in 2009!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#157 The Skeptical Floridian Says:<br />
June 6th, 2009 at 1:15 am<br />
…I hope this planet burns away into nothing.</p>
<p>RE:<br />
If nothing better happens,<br />
THAT would be the BEST thing to<br />
happen in 2009!</p>
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		<title>By: NeuroGenesis1:29</title>
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		<dc:creator>NeuroGenesis1:29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#157  The Skeptical Floridian Says:
June 6th, 2009 at 1:15 am
...I hope this planet burns away into nothing. 

RE: 
If nothing better happens, 
THAT woulcd be the BEST thing to 
happen in 2009!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#157  The Skeptical Floridian Says:<br />
June 6th, 2009 at 1:15 am<br />
&#8230;I hope this planet burns away into nothing. </p>
<p>RE:<br />
If nothing better happens,<br />
THAT woulcd be the BEST thing to<br />
happen in 2009!</p>
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		<title>By: NeuroGenesis1:29</title>
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		<dc:creator>NeuroGenesis1:29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#157  The Skeptical Floridian Says:
June 6th, 2009 at 1:15 am
...I hope this planet burns away into nothing. 

RE: 
If nothing better happens, 
THAT woulcd be the BEST thing to 
happwen in 2009!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#157  The Skeptical Floridian Says:<br />
June 6th, 2009 at 1:15 am<br />
&#8230;I hope this planet burns away into nothing. </p>
<p>RE:<br />
If nothing better happens,<br />
THAT woulcd be the BEST thing to<br />
happwen in 2009!</p>
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		<title>By: grvtykllr</title>
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		<dc:creator>grvtykllr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Lucas Mashall, and anyone else that feels the same way:

You said:

When the Police tell you that pot causes crime ————– that is propaganda!!!

I have to disagree.
Please do not think me an idiot,or brainwashed, I agree in legalization, I agree with pretty much all of your propaganda statements in that comment you left above. And maybe after reading this you might agree with my argument on why that single statement is false.

Pot does cause crime, not because of any chemical dependency or craving, not because of any reaction to it.
Because its illegal there is a vast underground market, people are killed over it, in the states its grown illegally in farms hidden in nation parks and national forests. Its sold illegally, and people get very defensive about it, about protecting themselves over turf wars and being ripped off.

I can agree with you that if it were legal it would not cause crime. It being illegal does however cause crime.

See where I am going with this?
by the simple statement that it does not cause it, you leave out the entire bit of crime that is caused by its current legal status.
I think you can get away with that here on NORML&#039;s site because for the most part people that visit and read the stories and comments here are already well enough educated that they see where your going with it.
However on other sites, and articles, places where you are trying to educate the people who read it and maybe do not have a stead fast reaction and decision to it, you do your cause a disservice with that simple statement instead of any detail immediately following, or maybe rewriting, that single simple statement.
Just a thought on picking words carefully and giving full facts on statements you make.
At this time in our country we are closer than ever before to removing the astigmatism associated with pot, we are closer than any time before at making it legal, again! We can not afford to lose any single alli in the fight. I think that your statement does exactly that, it alienates people because they know there is crime associated with pot.
If its explained in a bit more detail than screaming propaganda, then those people can see why you say its false.
I only know this from conversations and arguments with people over me saying the very same thing you said.
They instantly jumped to the conclusion that I was a lair because of that single thing, if I lied about that i must be fibbing on all the other stuff i had pointed out as well.

Aside from that single point, I applaud you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Lucas Mashall, and anyone else that feels the same way:</p>
<p>You said:</p>
<p>When the Police tell you that pot causes crime ————– that is propaganda!!!</p>
<p>I have to disagree.<br />
Please do not think me an idiot,or brainwashed, I agree in legalization, I agree with pretty much all of your propaganda statements in that comment you left above. And maybe after reading this you might agree with my argument on why that single statement is false.</p>
<p>Pot does cause crime, not because of any chemical dependency or craving, not because of any reaction to it.<br />
Because its illegal there is a vast underground market, people are killed over it, in the states its grown illegally in farms hidden in nation parks and national forests. Its sold illegally, and people get very defensive about it, about protecting themselves over turf wars and being ripped off.</p>
<p>I can agree with you that if it were legal it would not cause crime. It being illegal does however cause crime.</p>
<p>See where I am going with this?<br />
by the simple statement that it does not cause it, you leave out the entire bit of crime that is caused by its current legal status.<br />
I think you can get away with that here on NORML&#8217;s site because for the most part people that visit and read the stories and comments here are already well enough educated that they see where your going with it.<br />
However on other sites, and articles, places where you are trying to educate the people who read it and maybe do not have a stead fast reaction and decision to it, you do your cause a disservice with that simple statement instead of any detail immediately following, or maybe rewriting, that single simple statement.<br />
Just a thought on picking words carefully and giving full facts on statements you make.<br />
At this time in our country we are closer than ever before to removing the astigmatism associated with pot, we are closer than any time before at making it legal, again! We can not afford to lose any single alli in the fight. I think that your statement does exactly that, it alienates people because they know there is crime associated with pot.<br />
If its explained in a bit more detail than screaming propaganda, then those people can see why you say its false.<br />
I only know this from conversations and arguments with people over me saying the very same thing you said.<br />
They instantly jumped to the conclusion that I was a lair because of that single thing, if I lied about that i must be fibbing on all the other stuff i had pointed out as well.</p>
<p>Aside from that single point, I applaud you.</p>
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		<title>By: Cody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Site it mine... 

Anyway I was reading above and someone was saying that Why would you let our Nazi American Gov Tell you what to Do in our own homes as long as no one gets hurt why the fuck does the Gov. Think they should be allowed to say shit... 

This Country is FUCKED UP Some people will be insulted my that statement but if you are You Dont Know ANYTHING.. TRavel to a few other countries and you will quickly realize freedom is not what we have in America. 

I realize that this GOV. Is Out of CONTROL... but what the fuck can I do... nothing.. 

MAKE SURE YOU GROW!!!! THIS IS HOW YOU FIGHT BACK GROW WEED SMOKE IT, SHARE IT, AND THIS WILL BENEFIT YOU &amp; EVERYONE ELSE!!

Consider if you grow it your one less person that will be paying the Gov for theirs Bringing local princing down and helping out some people (Give 10% away  to low income friends)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Site it mine&#8230; </p>
<p>Anyway I was reading above and someone was saying that Why would you let our Nazi American Gov Tell you what to Do in our own homes as long as no one gets hurt why the fuck does the Gov. Think they should be allowed to say shit&#8230; </p>
<p>This Country is FUCKED UP Some people will be insulted my that statement but if you are You Dont Know ANYTHING.. TRavel to a few other countries and you will quickly realize freedom is not what we have in America. </p>
<p>I realize that this GOV. Is Out of CONTROL&#8230; but what the fuck can I do&#8230; nothing.. </p>
<p>MAKE SURE YOU GROW!!!! THIS IS HOW YOU FIGHT BACK GROW WEED SMOKE IT, SHARE IT, AND THIS WILL BENEFIT YOU &amp; EVERYONE ELSE!!</p>
<p>Consider if you grow it your one less person that will be paying the Gov for theirs Bringing local princing down and helping out some people (Give 10% away  to low income friends)</p>
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		<title>By: Castaneda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Castaneda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to know what we are fighting against(Corporate Big Pharma) watch the movie &quot;The Corporation&quot;. Its a must see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to know what we are fighting against(Corporate Big Pharma) watch the movie &#8220;The Corporation&#8221;. Its a must see.</p>
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		<title>By: NeuroGenesis1:29</title>
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		<dc:creator>NeuroGenesis1:29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#192 Dan D. Says:
June 9th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

&quot;...The only reason they use synthetic THC is because Fed law says it’s a class 1 drug....&quot; 

&lt;b&gt;RE: 
Dan D., 
- Synthetic THC, (Marinol&#8482;), is a 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Substances_Act#Schedule_III_controlled_substances&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SCHEDULE-3 drug,&lt;/a&gt; 
NOT a &#039;Class-1 drug&#039; in the U.S., 
while Whole CANNABIS is Schedule-1. 
(No medical-use...SUPPOSEDLY), 
This is THE ABSURDITY!!!. 
&lt;/b&gt;

Schedule III.—

(A) The drug or other substance has a potential for abuse 
less than the drugs or other substances in schedules I and II.

(B) The drug or other substance has a currently 
accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.

(C) Abuse of the drug or other substance may lead to 
moderate or low physical dependence or high psychological dependence. 
These drugs are available only by prescription, 
though control of wholesale distribution is somewhat less stringent than Schedule II drugs. 
Prescriptions for Schedule III drugs may be refilled up to five times within a six month perio</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#192 Dan D. Says:<br />
June 9th, 2009 at 5:04 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;The only reason they use synthetic THC is because Fed law says it’s a class 1 drug&#8230;.&#8221; </p>
<p><b>RE:<br />
Dan D.,<br />
- Synthetic THC, (Marinol&trade;), is a<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Substances_Act#Schedule_III_controlled_substances" rel="nofollow">SCHEDULE-3 drug,</a><br />
NOT a &#8216;Class-1 drug&#8217; in the U.S.,<br />
while Whole CANNABIS is Schedule-1.<br />
(No medical-use&#8230;SUPPOSEDLY),<br />
This is THE ABSURDITY!!!.<br />
</b></p>
<p>Schedule III.—</p>
<p>(A) The drug or other substance has a potential for abuse<br />
less than the drugs or other substances in schedules I and II.</p>
<p>(B) The drug or other substance has a currently<br />
accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.</p>
<p>(C) Abuse of the drug or other substance may lead to<br />
moderate or low physical dependence or high psychological dependence.<br />
These drugs are available only by prescription,<br />
though control of wholesale distribution is somewhat less stringent than Schedule II drugs.<br />
Prescriptions for Schedule III drugs may be refilled up to five times within a six month perio</p>
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		<title>By: bob delk</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob delk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.change.org/actions/view/legalize_marijuana

^ everyone go sign this petition!</description>
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<p>^ everyone go sign this petition!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 22:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only reason they use synthetic THC is because Fed law says it&#039;s a class 1 drug. Which means no one is allowed to have it in possession not even the drug makers. 
But because of using the synthetics can give room to legalizing marijuana because now there is proof that it has a &quot;medical value&quot; to it. 
 There are other facilities in the US that are doing tests on marijuana when it comes to todays potency, which if all the research was combined it would show by far that &quot;Pot&quot; is medically viable and should no longer be illegal. By the way can anyone show the medical values of smoking cigarettes or drinking liquor? But &quot;pot&quot; on there other hand can help with ... well you get the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only reason they use synthetic THC is because Fed law says it&#8217;s a class 1 drug. Which means no one is allowed to have it in possession not even the drug makers.<br />
But because of using the synthetics can give room to legalizing marijuana because now there is proof that it has a &#8220;medical value&#8221; to it.<br />
 There are other facilities in the US that are doing tests on marijuana when it comes to todays potency, which if all the research was combined it would show by far that &#8220;Pot&#8221; is medically viable and should no longer be illegal. By the way can anyone show the medical values of smoking cigarettes or drinking liquor? But &#8220;pot&#8221; on there other hand can help with &#8230; well you get the point.</p>
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		<title>By: NeuroGenesis1:29</title>
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		<dc:creator>NeuroGenesis1:29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#163  Tennessee Activist Says:
June 6th, 2009 at 8:42 am

&quot;Being associated with marijuana use is 
described in detail by the American Psychiatric Association. 
If you use MJ, your classified with a &lt;i&gt;mental condition&lt;/i&gt;, 
not found in non-users of MJ.&quot;

&lt;b&gt;RE: 
TN Activist, 
- If the truth be known...to the APA... 
that &lt;i&gt;mental condition&lt;/i&gt; would 
be known as 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=NORMALITY&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NORMALITY!!!&lt;/a&gt;
 
- The ability to get 6 to 8 hours of RESTORATIVE sleep every night !!! 
- The ability to have a calm, composed attitude...
- The ability to be more productive, to keep a job / occupation...
- The ability to have a regular appetite,  
(Contrary to the &quot;munchies-stereotype&quot;, 
cannabis &lt;i&gt;normalizes&lt;/i&gt; hunger-response, 
only making food more appealing, satisfying, 
not promoting over-indulgence).  
&lt;/b&gt;

#163  Tennessee Activist Says:
June 6th, 2009 at 8:42 am

&quot;Fighting against opponents is one thing but your next battle will be with doctors. 
We place way too much trust in their personal opinions.&quot; 

&lt;b&gt;RE: 
TN Activist, 
I place very little trust in their personal opinions.
- To me, a doctor is just another human-being with a 
possibly-debatable / questionable education and medical-viewpoint(s)...

- First to ask, 
What is their viewpoint? 

- Does it lean more towards conventional &#039;allopathic&#039;, 
merely treating symptoms, usually with synthetic-compounds 
far-removed from anything occurring in nature? 

...Or more towards naturopathic, 
treating the entire body as a system prone to imbalances 
and deficiencies, remedied with best combination of foods and plant-derived medicines?

 Pharmacologically, 
- Do they place more of their trust upon phytochemistry?
 (i.e. medicines closely-derived from plants and / or combinations thereof), 

Or 

Something else? 
(Distant &#039;knock-offs&#039; of 
plant-based medicines / medications;
i.e. Artificial compounds bearing 
little resemblance to the phyto-chemicals 
they&#039;re originally based upon). 
&lt;/b&gt; 

#163  Tennessee Activist Says:
June 6th, 2009 at 8:42 am

- &quot;Make them stick to facts on MJ 
and how it affects each individual&#039;s quality of life. &quot;

&lt;b&gt;RE: 
Better yet, TN Activist, 
(Though easier said than done...),

- Finding a physician whose personal-opinion 
about cannabis is trustworthy; 
(Already having first-hand, practical 
&lt;i&gt;clinical-experience&lt;/i&gt; about its medical-applications).

- Thoroughly-knowledgeable about the body&#039;s 
endocannabinoid-system, phytochemistry, 
and the symbiotically-beneficial effects that 
&lt;i&gt;whole-cannabis&lt;/i&gt; preparations have on it. 

To start...

the names... 
Dr. Lester Grinspoon, 
Dr. Melanie Dreher 
Dr. Andrew Weil 
come to mind...

as M.D.&#039;s who have extensive, clinical 
medi-cann research-experience.
&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#163  Tennessee Activist Says:<br />
June 6th, 2009 at 8:42 am</p>
<p>&#8220;Being associated with marijuana use is<br />
described in detail by the American Psychiatric Association.<br />
If you use MJ, your classified with a <i>mental condition</i>,<br />
not found in non-users of MJ.&#8221;</p>
<p><b>RE:<br />
TN Activist,<br />
- If the truth be known&#8230;to the APA&#8230;<br />
that <i>mental condition</i> would<br />
be known as<br />
<a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=NORMALITY" rel="nofollow">NORMALITY!!!</a></p>
<p>- The ability to get 6 to 8 hours of RESTORATIVE sleep every night !!!<br />
- The ability to have a calm, composed attitude&#8230;<br />
- The ability to be more productive, to keep a job / occupation&#8230;<br />
- The ability to have a regular appetite,<br />
(Contrary to the &#8220;munchies-stereotype&#8221;,<br />
cannabis <i>normalizes</i> hunger-response,<br />
only making food more appealing, satisfying,<br />
not promoting over-indulgence).<br />
</b></p>
<p>#163  Tennessee Activist Says:<br />
June 6th, 2009 at 8:42 am</p>
<p>&#8220;Fighting against opponents is one thing but your next battle will be with doctors.<br />
We place way too much trust in their personal opinions.&#8221; </p>
<p><b>RE:<br />
TN Activist,<br />
I place very little trust in their personal opinions.<br />
- To me, a doctor is just another human-being with a<br />
possibly-debatable / questionable education and medical-viewpoint(s)&#8230;</p>
<p>- First to ask,<br />
What is their viewpoint? </p>
<p>- Does it lean more towards conventional &#8216;allopathic&#8217;,<br />
merely treating symptoms, usually with synthetic-compounds<br />
far-removed from anything occurring in nature? </p>
<p>&#8230;Or more towards naturopathic,<br />
treating the entire body as a system prone to imbalances<br />
and deficiencies, remedied with best combination of foods and plant-derived medicines?</p>
<p> Pharmacologically,<br />
- Do they place more of their trust upon phytochemistry?<br />
 (i.e. medicines closely-derived from plants and / or combinations thereof), </p>
<p>Or </p>
<p>Something else?<br />
(Distant &#8216;knock-offs&#8217; of<br />
plant-based medicines / medications;<br />
i.e. Artificial compounds bearing<br />
little resemblance to the phyto-chemicals<br />
they&#8217;re originally based upon).<br />
</b> </p>
<p>#163  Tennessee Activist Says:<br />
June 6th, 2009 at 8:42 am</p>
<p>- &#8220;Make them stick to facts on MJ<br />
and how it affects each individual&#8217;s quality of life. &#8221;</p>
<p><b>RE:<br />
Better yet, TN Activist,<br />
(Though easier said than done&#8230;),</p>
<p>- Finding a physician whose personal-opinion<br />
about cannabis is trustworthy;<br />
(Already having first-hand, practical<br />
<i>clinical-experience</i> about its medical-applications).</p>
<p>- Thoroughly-knowledgeable about the body&#8217;s<br />
endocannabinoid-system, phytochemistry,<br />
and the symbiotically-beneficial effects that<br />
<i>whole-cannabis</i> preparations have on it. </p>
<p>To start&#8230;</p>
<p>the names&#8230;<br />
Dr. Lester Grinspoon,<br />
Dr. Melanie Dreher<br />
Dr. Andrew Weil<br />
come to mind&#8230;</p>
<p>as M.D.&#8217;s who have extensive, clinical<br />
medi-cann research-experience.<br />
</b></p>
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