Comments on: Pain Clinics Test Patients for Marijuana Use

By: Kyle

Kyle — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:15:48 +0000

Hi there I have been searching online for a few days now trying to find any official legislation that directly prohibits pain management doctors from prescribing narcotic pain medication to patients that are smoking marijuana. I was recently informed by a doctor that she would be unable to prescribe me any narcotic medication due to the fact that on my questionnaire I wrote truthfully that I smoke marijuana. From what I can tell by the literature that I have found there is no official law prohibiting this. It seems as though this doctor is more concerned with law enforcement then with patient care. Gee go figure. It just seems so crazy that you can tell the doctor that you drink alcohol and they will not have any problem with setting up an appropriate treatment for you but if you smoke marijuana you are unacceptable. I tell you what if I were a doctor I would rather my patients be smoking marijuana and typically reducing the opiate consumption then taking these opiates and drinking alcohol along with them and potentially dying due to countless risks that associate with that scenario. So if anyone could be of assistance and not just say yes or no regarding any official legislation directly prohibiting narcotic treatment but please point me in the direction of a web site or phone number if possible. Thank you so much

By: jaydee

jaydee — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:38:30 +0000

Those of you who worry about being cut off opiate pain meds because of medical marijuana use should investigate the possibility of growing opium poppies which is legal in most states. You can dry them and save the heads which can be made into a very effective pain relieving tea. There are instructions and recipes all over the internet. The seeds can be bought online and at many health food shops. The dried pods store well and can be saved for future use. Poppy tea is every bit as effective and Oxycontin and the strength can be adjusted to suit individual needs. Poppy tea provides effective pain relief for a very low cost and while it may be illegal it can save many pain sufferers from the vagaries of sadistic drug testing doctors.

By: j davis

j davis — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:07:25 +0000

The cowards and sociopaths of the dea would rather thousands suffer pain unnecessarily than one addict deceive a doctor. As one ex agent put it the dea has become a repository for ‘right wing nuts.’ This rogue agency should be abolished.

By: Bluebuddah

Bluebuddah — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:06:25 +0000

OK, so I am sooooo glad to find this site! I have been seeing a pain doc for 3 years, they have never popped a urine test on me until last night. I live in MD, and have smoked MJ for 25 years, and work for the federal gov’t. Soo yes, I have federal healthcare. I am scared shitless – I am just hoping that HIPPA protects me cus I know I am gonna pop positive. At this point I could really care less about whether the docs are gonna see me again, because I have had sooo many problems with them – there front office is horrible and I was thinking about switching docs anyways. They have me on all sorts of medication for my chronic pain in my back because I don’t want surgery. And all of the hardware in my back – well I am a walking weather detector. So it’s not like I am lying about any of my pain, as I have a well known surgeon that would like to cut me open and redo my surgery. I am just not ready for that yet. Smoking MJ is the ONE THING that relaxes my muscles, which relaxes my back, which then makes me not be in pain. These docs are so eager to PUSH meds – its almost like they are making a profit!!!! Maryland doesn’t have the MMJ card yet, but I am hopeful. I just got back from CA, and I am jealous. What is the harm with MJ. Nothing!!!! Think about how many people it helps, and yet you smoke it and it can stay with you for 3 – 4 weeks. Yet someone can abuse other drugs, get off of it for a few days, and come up clean. Its just not fair – they need to make a different test for MJ users or not one at all!

By: Fully paralyzed Canadian man’s wheelchair seized because of legal medical marijuana use | NORML Daily Audio Stash

Fri, 04 Sep 2009 23:31:04 +0000

[...] Cannabis Culture has a video interview with the man as well. This is the stigma even legal users of medical marijuana still face. Sure, places like Canada, California, Colorado, and others won’t arrest you and lock you up if you’re a legit medical marijuana patient, but medical marijuana laws don’t force employers, hospitals, care facilities, landlords, or the government to accommodate your use of medical marijuana. You’re perfectly free to use your medical marijuana, so long as you don’t mind homelessness, joblessness, removal from the organ transplant list, and revocation of your pain medications. [...]

By: smokenbull

smokenbull — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 03:41:32 +0000

howdy folks, to post nmber 28 ethan,I have ankylosing spondilitis and wrighters syndrom with nerve damage from a bad car wreck 27 years ago,you ask why take opioids along with pot for my pain,well for one the opioids dont releive all pain! the muscle pain twisting and pulling on my bad disc makes the pain much worse! with some folks if your messed up enough it takes different kinds of things to help one another to get releife,I’ve hurt for most of my life and without medications to keep me from hurting so bad I would be a tortured misserable soul and just could not live under that much stress,I cant have any operations to help me,so I’m forced to do the best that I can,I live in california where pot is legal if i choose but the moment they find it in my system they will take away my opioids, I can’t live without them because unlike some my nerve damage is not numbness but sharp pains that go right to the center of my brain and cause migrains for days on end,I throw up and wished I was dead just to get out of so much pain, the pot helps me sleep without pills,I have gurd and acid reflux,and a very slow digestive system,the nerves are damaged going to my intestines also which all causes my digestion to slow so bad that food will sour before I can get it through my system,every now and then I will smoke some pot speeding up my digestion so that it will not make me sick,you see I also am missing a key enzym which kills some of the bacteria that cooking want kill so over a month it builds up in me and the pot also helps speed the process up so that it pushes poisons out of my system that otherwise my body could not do on it’s on,also I am a hypoglysemic! when I smoke pot it will run my sugar a bit higher but it don’t drop me like a rock! one a docter tested me when I was 15 and said son do you feel alright to which i said why doc im just a bit light headed but it’s normal for me to feel this ways and he said well your test show your sugar leval at (19) and he said you should be passed out,I never sen anyone be so low and still be able to talk to me muchless make any sense! I was born this ways so I’m use to it, wehn I reached early 20s I started smokeing pot and my sugar levals have not bothered me for over 20 years unless ive had a few reactions to medications(sulfur drugs) that made it go yoyo until I got them out of my system,
I’ve smoked pot for about 25 years now and without it I would not even still be here,I would have ended it along tme ago with as much pain as i’ve lived with over the years,I have spinal damge from head to toe and thats not figurativly either,i’ve had spinal injections and trigger point injections that made me ick as a dog but never not one time has pot ever mae me sick! if anything it has helped me when othr drugs did make me sick,its calming nerve easing medication! a mirical drug if you will but it can only help so much and in certin ways! but in ways no other drugs can even get close to !!!when you flip a car 9 times, get ejected 176 feet, bounce off the ground,fly another 45 feet into a 4 strand bobbed wired fence takeing out 6 polls to the ground all woven up intwines in the strands and then the cars very lest flip is on top of you with the car upside down beeing mashed to death it will put pain in places you never thought could ever hurt, i thank god I’m alive each and every day,i am god fearing man and I think god put plants on this earth to feed and heal,god done one hell of a job in my book, and in that book it says not to trust (MAN) and thats where it all comes into play,the doctors get kickbacks by the drug companys! and they spend bilions of dollars for lobbyist to keep the government to do there evil bidding! WE THE PEOPLE HAVE NO SAY THESE DAYS! I only wished that I was born with enough money to fight these crooks! the fact that I can get much better releif with a combonation of drugs with pot they dont care about one way or another,I would not use nearly as much pain meds if I could smoke pot regular without worrying about them taken away what I need so I just sneak around when I can for a few days and try to purge the poisons out of me and go back to cleaning up without it so if they test me I want be out of a doctor or the nerve numbing opioids that I also cant live without,it should not be this ways for me or anyone else, the doctors oaths only go so far as to not get in th ways of there kick back moneys,if I was president I would tst all doctors and those that did not apply that oath to help people above all would be tossed out of there cans!! all Ive heard in the last few months is to take away money from doctors and hospitals when the real villan is the pharma companies thats chargeing more money than all others combined times x10…..notice how quick they ws to jump in there saying they would help with all this dealings in the white house?? what it is is they have donated 1% to make it look like there helping and keep them out of the issue when in reality there charging 90% way to dam much and dont want that part to be drug into the whole issue,there plea bargaining basicaly,and keepingthere name out of it and the president knows this,I’ll even bet that he has bought stock in there companies one way or another just like he did with the freddy mea and fany mack deals,it ruined our country but noones talking about him beeing the number two man for the amount of profit that he made from them two which was into the millions of dollars, it’s like letting the wolf guard the hen house! this is the first time to visit this site,I;m going to try my best to join and get involved in whatever ways that I can,I’m damn tired of running around hideing in acountry that I love because of some damn suit somewheres thats never worked a hard day in his life telling me how I feel and how i should feel being forced to take stuff that I know can’t work as good as pot,for with it regular I would not need the acid reflux medications,nor the sleepin pills,not any nerve pills,and I could even cut way down on my opiods although I will always need some of them! but they are costing our government a fortune just by themselves and I feal bad knowing just how much they cost when I know a small bag of pot that only costs 5% or less as much as the opioids do could help me even more and the savings on all the other medications also,over lifetime it’s enough to help many others not just one,I want to be apart of the solution not the cause,and it may put me in jail or loseing my doctor to do the right thing,thats really sad that our government just dont understnd whats right in plain sight!!! sorry for this being so long folks,I just thought I needed to get it out,not many places one an go to be themselves and speak there minds,we must organize stronger and strike while the irons hot,in california the doors been opened so lets all not let them slam it back in our faces this time,get involved in any ways that you can,I know I’m going to….smokenbull

By: Pain Clinics Test Patients for Marijuana Use | Heroin Addictions

Pain Clinics Test Patients for Marijuana Use | Heroin Addictions — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:06:36 +0000

[...] More info…By Dale Gieringer , Director, CA NORML Like many medical marijuana users, Kristin Redeen needed additional prescription medications for her severe chronic pain. For seven years she had been treated at a private pain clinic in the Central Valley, where a doctor maintained her on Percocet, a semi-synthetic opioid. One day Kristin was unexpectedly asked to submit a urine sample. They already knew about my medical marijuana use, says Kristin, who contacted California NORML. I didnt thi [...]

By: Amy

Amy — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:54:01 +0000

I am a chronic pain sufferer in Ohio. During my disability hearing I was asked if I smoked marijuana. I answered them honestly. Yes, I occassionally use. I’d rather smoke a little than take the heavy narcotics which make me stupid, incoherent, lazy and fat.

I was awarded my disability in 2008. I am in a non MMJ state. I was recently refferred to a pain management clinic where I was subjected to a drug test, which I failed. My family physician had me on a morphine and klonopin cocktail.

I am recently back in school, studying law. The doctor told me it was illegal to SMOKE marijuana! I told him he was mistaken. It is illegal to cultivate, possess or sell. He kept asking where and how I got it. None of his business. The problem is that, when I originally asked my doctor to give me something less potent than the morphine, he sent me to this “so called” doctor. I told this guy I ABSOLUTELY did NOT want morphine. It is too strong for me. Before I failed the test he told me if I did not take what he felt was best for me, than he could’t help me. When the test came back positive, he told me it was illegal for him to prescribe me anything but mild muscle relaxers and anti-inflammatories(the latter of which I am deathly allergic too!), but he wouldn’t do that either. He did, however, threaten me with the police and children services. (I have an autistic child to care for)My last script was filled at the beginning of June. I still have a couple of days left, because I only take it when I need it, not every day the way they told me too. And now I’m scared shitless because I will be completely cut off, and going through withdrawals.

Doctors broke my back 10 years ago during a difficult delivery. It took them 7 more years to find it. I now suffer from degenerative disk disease, failed back surgery syndrome, oh yeah the metal is the WORST in winter folks, I have developed scoliosis from these conditions plus spurring throughout the thoracic region and a herniated disk at C-4. There are more injuries to the neck and spine but I think you all feel me.

I was so glad to find this website! To know I am not alone in suffering. The MJ has taken the edge off the pain without making me stupid, incoherent or lazy. I can still properly care for my child, something I cannot do when they are legally dealing/pushing morphine, especially when you ask for a less potent drug.

They want us all dummied up so they can do what they want and we wont care!

The only way to make a change is to force it upon our “Blubberment” I mean government.

PS. Do any of you know about the WTO and the new codecs going into effect at the end of 2009?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:34:14 +0000

i will do whatever is neccassary to deal with my pain,including breaking the law!

By: John

John — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:42:38 +0000

I’m a cronic pain sufferer in Texas and my Dr does drug testing. If you fail you can lose your medicade. I take Oxycodone but it alone just dosn’t do the job. With just a little cannabis I only need about half of the Oxycodone I normally would. I have only once came across any cannabis that worked well by itself, if it were legal that might be different. I know this. If I can’t get treatment for the pain I will seek euthinasia.