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	<title>Comments on: Esquire: He&#8217;s Not High &#8211; Inside Barney Frank&#8217;s Plan to Legalize Marijuana</title>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Booze will mess you up a lot more than pot. If the government legalized it and taxed it, we would have no deficit and quite a healthy country bank roll.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every time I see this guys Elmer Fudd face, or hear his Elmer Fudd voice, I am taken back a step or two, especially because I know his complete background, and it isn&#039;t one that I real in favor of.  But...he is a soldier in this cause, and for that I consider the merit of his actions.  Be verwy, verwy quiet...I&#039;m hunting wabbit, aka marwywanna.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every time I see this guys Elmer Fudd face, or hear his Elmer Fudd voice, I am taken back a step or two, especially because I know his complete background, and it isn&#8217;t one that I real in favor of.  But&#8230;he is a soldier in this cause, and for that I consider the merit of his actions.  Be verwy, verwy quiet&#8230;I&#8217;m hunting wabbit, aka marwywanna.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we should start a national petition of citizens that want sanity brought back to Washington. When we&#039;ve gotten all the signatures we can; we should go public with the numbers sending the petition to every major media outlet, and the house and senate as well. If we make it obvious that this isn&#039;t going away they may actually start listening.

So far the FBI/DEA have been taking matters into their own hands because they are allowed because of the classification of Cannabis, but Ugh said it best :

Quote[Ugh]: &quot;I remember in college my teacher told me that public health issues were delegated to the states by the Constitution. It seems to me that the Constitution is abused wholesale today...&quot;

Yes Ugh my US Gov. Teacher told us the same thing soon after Bush made the comments that He could Federally disregard California&#039;s Medicinal Cannabis laws because of Marijuana&#039;s classification under controlled substance laws. The FBI/DEA under control still by former administration advisers is continuing this anti-democratic escapade. That&#039;s why this law needs to pass so that the FBI/DEA can not use the current gray area against state law abiding citizens; just because they don&#039;t agree with the state laws.

Also we need to work out something to have better guidelines surrounding Co-ops and dispensaries because the places that are getting hit are the ones pushing the limits too far or not doing things that would keep them out of trouble in the first place.

Patients need safe access to there Medical Cannabis the FBI/DEA need to stop taking these places down unless they are trafficking Cannabis grown by these Mexican Cartels. If they are then make sure they know what they&#039;re doing is hurting our security and watch them for a while to make sure they don&#039;t buy off of known cartel brokers. The best way to keep the Cartels out of the Market is to let the US growers know that as long as they aren&#039;t selling on the street to non-patients; that they don&#039;t have anything to worry about. Also we should maybe start a grower registration program so that growers can be checked to make sure they don&#039;t have Cartel or Gang ties.

Just a thought..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we should start a national petition of citizens that want sanity brought back to Washington. When we&#8217;ve gotten all the signatures we can; we should go public with the numbers sending the petition to every major media outlet, and the house and senate as well. If we make it obvious that this isn&#8217;t going away they may actually start listening.</p>
<p>So far the FBI/DEA have been taking matters into their own hands because they are allowed because of the classification of Cannabis, but Ugh said it best :</p>
<p>Quote[Ugh]: &#8220;I remember in college my teacher told me that public health issues were delegated to the states by the Constitution. It seems to me that the Constitution is abused wholesale today&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes Ugh my US Gov. Teacher told us the same thing soon after Bush made the comments that He could Federally disregard California&#8217;s Medicinal Cannabis laws because of Marijuana&#8217;s classification under controlled substance laws. The FBI/DEA under control still by former administration advisers is continuing this anti-democratic escapade. That&#8217;s why this law needs to pass so that the FBI/DEA can not use the current gray area against state law abiding citizens; just because they don&#8217;t agree with the state laws.</p>
<p>Also we need to work out something to have better guidelines surrounding Co-ops and dispensaries because the places that are getting hit are the ones pushing the limits too far or not doing things that would keep them out of trouble in the first place.</p>
<p>Patients need safe access to there Medical Cannabis the FBI/DEA need to stop taking these places down unless they are trafficking Cannabis grown by these Mexican Cartels. If they are then make sure they know what they&#8217;re doing is hurting our security and watch them for a while to make sure they don&#8217;t buy off of known cartel brokers. The best way to keep the Cartels out of the Market is to let the US growers know that as long as they aren&#8217;t selling on the street to non-patients; that they don&#8217;t have anything to worry about. Also we should maybe start a grower registration program so that growers can be checked to make sure they don&#8217;t have Cartel or Gang ties.</p>
<p>Just a thought..</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blog.norml.org/2009/07/14/esquire-hes-not-high-inside-barney-franks-plan-to-legalize-marijuana/comment-page-1/#comment-51430</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee!  I thought everyone was on common ground.  Vote yes on cannabis, or dig a political hole. PROHIBS have to know that though. Be verbally active to them.  We can&#039;t turn our anger on ourselves. 

The payola PROHIBS are getting from the pharma-beast is going to be 100% of nothing.  Can&#039;t get it if they&#039;re not in office.  I wouldn&#039;t think for a New York minute PROHIBS are unsophisticated enough to stand against an 85% of the voting public in favor of legalizing medicinal marijuana.  There&#039;s some pissed-off puppies out there, and their vocabulary is containing more and more everyday, words like CIVIL WAR...REVOLT...and things you just never hear from law abidding citizens.  Mr. &amp; Mrs. PROHIBITIONIST... as the X&#039;ers (born between 1960-1980...85 million of them...the largest voting block in the U.S.A.) say  &quot;DEAL WITH IT!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee!  I thought everyone was on common ground.  Vote yes on cannabis, or dig a political hole. PROHIBS have to know that though. Be verbally active to them.  We can&#8217;t turn our anger on ourselves. </p>
<p>The payola PROHIBS are getting from the pharma-beast is going to be 100% of nothing.  Can&#8217;t get it if they&#8217;re not in office.  I wouldn&#8217;t think for a New York minute PROHIBS are unsophisticated enough to stand against an 85% of the voting public in favor of legalizing medicinal marijuana.  There&#8217;s some pissed-off puppies out there, and their vocabulary is containing more and more everyday, words like CIVIL WAR&#8230;REVOLT&#8230;and things you just never hear from law abidding citizens.  Mr. &amp; Mrs. PROHIBITIONIST&#8230; as the X&#8217;ers (born between 1960-1980&#8230;85 million of them&#8230;the largest voting block in the U.S.A.) say  &#8220;DEAL WITH IT!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though he is more progressive than many, Mr. Frank is still a politician, read his responses closely and you will see. Why is it that such an issue as this is not put to the popular vote? I remember in college my teacher told me that public health issues were delegated to the states by the Constitution. It seems to me that the Constitution is abused wholesale today, touted by the powers that be when it is convenient, and ignored when it contradicts their current agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though he is more progressive than many, Mr. Frank is still a politician, read his responses closely and you will see. Why is it that such an issue as this is not put to the popular vote? I remember in college my teacher told me that public health issues were delegated to the states by the Constitution. It seems to me that the Constitution is abused wholesale today, touted by the powers that be when it is convenient, and ignored when it contradicts their current agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://blog.norml.org/2009/07/14/esquire-hes-not-high-inside-barney-franks-plan-to-legalize-marijuana/comment-page-1/#comment-51329</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BF is a a complete fuck. this is the only issue he has common sense with.</description>
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		<title>By: Brinna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brinna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, to all you Barney Frank bashers: just what have you been doing with YOUR time?

Secondly, the most important comment here was one made by Plain and Simple:

1) State and Government Agencies (Police, DEA, ONDCP, etc.) can NOT be allowed to lobby political employees. 
2) Pharmaceutical Corporations must be prohibited from advertising their products directly to the public. 

I fully support eliminating these two practices. They hold prohibition in place, an are questionable at best. 

The first puts children (and adults) at risk for pharmaceutical drug abuse, the second is arguably an unconstitutional conflict of interest. 

To this list I would add immediate repeal of the seizure and forfeiture laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, to all you Barney Frank bashers: just what have you been doing with YOUR time?</p>
<p>Secondly, the most important comment here was one made by Plain and Simple:</p>
<p>1) State and Government Agencies (Police, DEA, ONDCP, etc.) can NOT be allowed to lobby political employees.<br />
2) Pharmaceutical Corporations must be prohibited from advertising their products directly to the public. </p>
<p>I fully support eliminating these two practices. They hold prohibition in place, an are questionable at best. </p>
<p>The first puts children (and adults) at risk for pharmaceutical drug abuse, the second is arguably an unconstitutional conflict of interest. </p>
<p>To this list I would add immediate repeal of the seizure and forfeiture laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Da Vinci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Da Vinci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barney Frank is a OWNED by the international banksters. If he can stop the Audit the Fed bill that has by partisan support and is co-sponsered by over 200 memebers of the house then he can get a decrim bill through, but apparentally he doesnt want to. This bill basically is all show. How many people get busted with less than 100 grams by the federdal govt each year ? Its very very low. Most possession charges are from state and local police, so his bill will do very little and wont effect almost any smokers. Frank and his bill are WEAK SAUCE !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barney Frank is a OWNED by the international banksters. If he can stop the Audit the Fed bill that has by partisan support and is co-sponsered by over 200 memebers of the house then he can get a decrim bill through, but apparentally he doesnt want to. This bill basically is all show. How many people get busted with less than 100 grams by the federdal govt each year ? Its very very low. Most possession charges are from state and local police, so his bill will do very little and wont effect almost any smokers. Frank and his bill are WEAK SAUCE !</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Niehouse</title>
		<link>http://blog.norml.org/2009/07/14/esquire-hes-not-high-inside-barney-franks-plan-to-legalize-marijuana/comment-page-1/#comment-51253</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Niehouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please support this bill. Help California and its people. Write to your Representatives PLEASE!</description>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://blog.norml.org/2009/07/14/esquire-hes-not-high-inside-barney-franks-plan-to-legalize-marijuana/comment-page-1/#comment-51232</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with post 19.

We should organize a boycott of these officials letting them know that if they don&#039;t vote for the bill too not count on being re-elected. 

We also need to make sure they understand; this isn&#039;t about stopping the drug war completely this is about keeping sick and pain stricken patients from living in agony. It&#039;s also about; getting the research done, that needs to be done, to most effectively treat illnesses using Medical Cannabis.

These politicians could be effectively prolonging the existence of some afflictions just by the fact that Medical Cannabis has been found, in ancient and modern studies, to treat a wide range of symptoms and to control inflammation better than most/or-all known agents.

That right there proves that real research needs to be done and that maybe the reason it&#039;s not being done has to do with someones pockets getting lined as long as we all stay sick... If that&#039;s true then there needs to be a big change in what&#039;s allowable in running this country because at this point it&#039;s like there&#039;s know oversight by the general public. All we can do is complain and open cases with the supreme court in hopes that someone will listen. If everyone we&#039;re trying to get to listen is being controlled by money and influence it&#039;s a sad day in this country.

I really wish Washington could have had is voice heard more clearly when he said the two party system would be the downfall of the country. I really wish the things he wanted written into the constitution that would have guaranteed the government&#039;s limits, to control what a citizen can and can&#039;t do; would have been put in... I wish the government would stop trying to mother people using the laws, and start focusing on running the country and the safety of the citizens. That doesn&#039;t mean you go as far as to tell them what they can and can&#039;t put in their own body, it means; You keep murderers and rapists off the streets, you start inner-city programs to give kids and teens something to do other then joining a gang, You actively teach teens the dangers of being in a gang, and help people that want to get off of drugs do so without locking them up when they ask for help, and making sure there are set places where the so called taboo behavior is okay. That would be like the red light district in Amsterdam. See the difference is, you don&#039;t have to allow the activity to spill into the streets or women in windows, you can set restrictions on what the area can look like, what ages are allowed in the areas without an adult and what is allowed behind closed doors.

You see there all afraid that allowing use would eventually mean everything would be okay, but even if it is, it was none of there business in the first place. The government isn&#039;t here to be mommy and daddy to everyone, it&#039;s here to keep the citizens safe from other citizens and hostile people outside the country, not keep citizens safe from themselves. If someone is only putting there self at risk and no one else, even unknowingly, then there is no reason to try to stop them from doing what they&#039;re doing unless they ask for help. If someone asks for help and you can and want to help then by all means help, but don&#039;t base the rights of the many on the actions of the few. Just because some idiot smokes too much weed and was doing it just to get high and then moves on too harder drugs, doesn&#039;t mean everyone else is going too. Things need to be looked at in more of a case by case outlook.

The people stopping this movement are keeping sick, tortured, and dieing patients from getting the alternative care they need. 

There are a lot of patients in the USA that are getting sicker from the medications they&#039;re using, when they could move off of those medications and focus on alternative medicine.

There are so many cases of people that had medically documented visible issues that were treated just by using Medical Cannabis, and they just keep ignoring them.

We need to find a way to show them all these positive cases of people who were at their worst and then had their life turn around for the positive after getting off of toxic medications and onto Medical Cannabis. There are people that run large businesses that use MC just about every day and are perfectly capable to do their job.

These people in most cases are just trying to control symptoms not escape reality. They are coherent and most are actually more productive because their symptoms that usually give them so much trouble are controlled.

We need to get this out there and change the way the public views Medical Cannabis patients and Medical Cannabis in general. At this point every time Medical Cannabis is mentioned to a conservative mind; they picture wood stock then move the people off of the field and into the streets of a major city or town. I know it&#039;s stupid to you guys and myself because most of the off the wall stuff going on at woodstock was Heroine and strong-Opiate-painkiller driven (ie., Morphine).

One day that conservative view will be changed, but not until we prove to them that; that is just not the way we are. We need to prove: we&#039;re just normal citizens in a lot of pain and excess discomfort, that are looking for an alternative way out. We need to prove that: we plan to run legitimate businesses, that don&#039;t bring the quality of the neighborhood they&#039;re in down but, that actually fit in to the area they&#039;re in and are respectfully run.

We need to change ourselves so that we&#039;re more friendly and trusting like we used to be.

I&#039;ll end with this. 

&quot;You get more flies with Honey&quot; 
         and 
&quot;Kindness Breeds Kindness&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with post 19.</p>
<p>We should organize a boycott of these officials letting them know that if they don&#8217;t vote for the bill too not count on being re-elected. </p>
<p>We also need to make sure they understand; this isn&#8217;t about stopping the drug war completely this is about keeping sick and pain stricken patients from living in agony. It&#8217;s also about; getting the research done, that needs to be done, to most effectively treat illnesses using Medical Cannabis.</p>
<p>These politicians could be effectively prolonging the existence of some afflictions just by the fact that Medical Cannabis has been found, in ancient and modern studies, to treat a wide range of symptoms and to control inflammation better than most/or-all known agents.</p>
<p>That right there proves that real research needs to be done and that maybe the reason it&#8217;s not being done has to do with someones pockets getting lined as long as we all stay sick&#8230; If that&#8217;s true then there needs to be a big change in what&#8217;s allowable in running this country because at this point it&#8217;s like there&#8217;s know oversight by the general public. All we can do is complain and open cases with the supreme court in hopes that someone will listen. If everyone we&#8217;re trying to get to listen is being controlled by money and influence it&#8217;s a sad day in this country.</p>
<p>I really wish Washington could have had is voice heard more clearly when he said the two party system would be the downfall of the country. I really wish the things he wanted written into the constitution that would have guaranteed the government&#8217;s limits, to control what a citizen can and can&#8217;t do; would have been put in&#8230; I wish the government would stop trying to mother people using the laws, and start focusing on running the country and the safety of the citizens. That doesn&#8217;t mean you go as far as to tell them what they can and can&#8217;t put in their own body, it means; You keep murderers and rapists off the streets, you start inner-city programs to give kids and teens something to do other then joining a gang, You actively teach teens the dangers of being in a gang, and help people that want to get off of drugs do so without locking them up when they ask for help, and making sure there are set places where the so called taboo behavior is okay. That would be like the red light district in Amsterdam. See the difference is, you don&#8217;t have to allow the activity to spill into the streets or women in windows, you can set restrictions on what the area can look like, what ages are allowed in the areas without an adult and what is allowed behind closed doors.</p>
<p>You see there all afraid that allowing use would eventually mean everything would be okay, but even if it is, it was none of there business in the first place. The government isn&#8217;t here to be mommy and daddy to everyone, it&#8217;s here to keep the citizens safe from other citizens and hostile people outside the country, not keep citizens safe from themselves. If someone is only putting there self at risk and no one else, even unknowingly, then there is no reason to try to stop them from doing what they&#8217;re doing unless they ask for help. If someone asks for help and you can and want to help then by all means help, but don&#8217;t base the rights of the many on the actions of the few. Just because some idiot smokes too much weed and was doing it just to get high and then moves on too harder drugs, doesn&#8217;t mean everyone else is going too. Things need to be looked at in more of a case by case outlook.</p>
<p>The people stopping this movement are keeping sick, tortured, and dieing patients from getting the alternative care they need. </p>
<p>There are a lot of patients in the USA that are getting sicker from the medications they&#8217;re using, when they could move off of those medications and focus on alternative medicine.</p>
<p>There are so many cases of people that had medically documented visible issues that were treated just by using Medical Cannabis, and they just keep ignoring them.</p>
<p>We need to find a way to show them all these positive cases of people who were at their worst and then had their life turn around for the positive after getting off of toxic medications and onto Medical Cannabis. There are people that run large businesses that use MC just about every day and are perfectly capable to do their job.</p>
<p>These people in most cases are just trying to control symptoms not escape reality. They are coherent and most are actually more productive because their symptoms that usually give them so much trouble are controlled.</p>
<p>We need to get this out there and change the way the public views Medical Cannabis patients and Medical Cannabis in general. At this point every time Medical Cannabis is mentioned to a conservative mind; they picture wood stock then move the people off of the field and into the streets of a major city or town. I know it&#8217;s stupid to you guys and myself because most of the off the wall stuff going on at woodstock was Heroine and strong-Opiate-painkiller driven (ie., Morphine).</p>
<p>One day that conservative view will be changed, but not until we prove to them that; that is just not the way we are. We need to prove: we&#8217;re just normal citizens in a lot of pain and excess discomfort, that are looking for an alternative way out. We need to prove that: we plan to run legitimate businesses, that don&#8217;t bring the quality of the neighborhood they&#8217;re in down but, that actually fit in to the area they&#8217;re in and are respectfully run.</p>
<p>We need to change ourselves so that we&#8217;re more friendly and trusting like we used to be.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll end with this. </p>
<p>&#8220;You get more flies with Honey&#8221;<br />
         and<br />
&#8220;Kindness Breeds Kindness&#8221;</p>
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