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	<title>Comments on: NORML SHOW LIVE Tonight from Madison, Wisconsin</title>
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		<title>By: Stompedonmyrights</title>
		<link>http://blog.norml.org/2009/10/03/norml-show-live-tonight-from-madison-wisconsin/comment-page-1/#comment-58290</link>
		<dc:creator>Stompedonmyrights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who do you think makes up the 850,000 people arrested each year? Men?  Did you really thin at this point in time that women don&#039;t play a equal part of our society?  Shame on you to think it was just us guys. Shame on you to think a women can&#039;t enjoy smoking pot and be smart too.  Just how closed are our minds these days?  
So now can we act to free the brothers and sisters from this hell on earth created by the law?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who do you think makes up the 850,000 people arrested each year? Men?  Did you really thin at this point in time that women don&#8217;t play a equal part of our society?  Shame on you to think it was just us guys. Shame on you to think a women can&#8217;t enjoy smoking pot and be smart too.  Just how closed are our minds these days?<br />
So now can we act to free the brothers and sisters from this hell on earth created by the law?</p>
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		<title>By: Stompedonmyrights</title>
		<link>http://blog.norml.org/2009/10/03/norml-show-live-tonight-from-madison-wisconsin/comment-page-1/#comment-58270</link>
		<dc:creator>Stompedonmyrights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 01:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The American Jury is the last and strongest line of defense against our government’s encroachment upon our constitutional rights.  The framers of the constitution knew the nature of politics that play in any and all governments, including the one they built.  They knew power and powerful people often become greedy, controlling, and corrupt, that they no longer act in the interest, safety ro welfare of the people they were to serve.  The founding dreamers of our Constitution knew that those powerful people often outlaw others, enslave them, and turn them into criminals / slaves therefore making it much easier to remove these folks from being an effective members of our society.  This way those in power can silence the voice of the people.  So jury of our peers clause was purposely placed into the Constitution to prevent the three branches of government from ganging up on the people, keeping government from becoming ungovernable.  
We the people have the power within us to effectually resist those unlawful acts of government without being driven to arms.  It is not law; any person may be justified in their resistance.  They maybe considered as a criminal by the government yet only their fellow citizens can convict them.  They are the Jury of peers an if they pronounce a person innocent, not all the power of congress can hurt that person.  “The jury has the power to acquit and the Court must abide by the decision.” U. S.  v.  Malawian, 417 F. 2d, 1002, 1006 (1969)
The jury, after having received the direction of the Court, shall have the right to determine, at their discretion, the law and the fact is constitutional. Appeal of Lowe, 46 An. 255, 26 Pac. 749, An. (1891). 
It is a common law right of the jury to determine the law as well as the facts. State v. Crate, 23 VT. 14, 54 Am. Dec. 90 (1849).
The Supreme Court of the United States recognizes that the American Jury in our political scene is ” Deigned to protect defendants against oppressive government practices.”  United States Ex Rel Both v. Carlist, 350 U.S. 11, 16 (1955).   It is best said by Justice White when he said,  “A safeguard against arbitrary law enforcement.” in William v. Florida, 90 S. Ct. 1893, 1905, (1970).
The special role of the Jury in cases involving political dissent was acknowledged to be particularly important because the American Jury then acts not only as a safeguard against judicial excesses, but also as a barrier to legislative and executive oppression.  

Take for example State v. Buckley, 40 Conn. 246 (Conn. 1873) This case was the prosecution for violation for selling liquor.  The accused claimed that the act was unconstitutional, asked the court to charge the jury that they were judges of the law as well as the facts.  The judge instructed the jury that in a criminal case they were judges of the law as well as the facts, but that they were under the same obligation in the matter with the judge on the bench, and were not authorized to say that is not law which is so; that the Supreme Court had decided the act to be constitutional; that if they decided to be unconstitutional which the Supreme Court had decided to be constitutional, they would disturb the foundation of law and, if on their consciences they could say that the act was unconstitutional, they ought to acquit the accused.  

So here you can see there is a way for the Jury to act lawlessly or by nullification of the law(s) that no longer represent the people.  It is clear that we must teach juries to acquit those 800,000 plus cannabis users and growers.  If we do this then we will render the law ineffective and they will stop enforcing it.  This is a peaceful path to bring change and we owe it to everyone to bring change by peaceful means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The American Jury is the last and strongest line of defense against our government’s encroachment upon our constitutional rights.  The framers of the constitution knew the nature of politics that play in any and all governments, including the one they built.  They knew power and powerful people often become greedy, controlling, and corrupt, that they no longer act in the interest, safety ro welfare of the people they were to serve.  The founding dreamers of our Constitution knew that those powerful people often outlaw others, enslave them, and turn them into criminals / slaves therefore making it much easier to remove these folks from being an effective members of our society.  This way those in power can silence the voice of the people.  So jury of our peers clause was purposely placed into the Constitution to prevent the three branches of government from ganging up on the people, keeping government from becoming ungovernable.<br />
We the people have the power within us to effectually resist those unlawful acts of government without being driven to arms.  It is not law; any person may be justified in their resistance.  They maybe considered as a criminal by the government yet only their fellow citizens can convict them.  They are the Jury of peers an if they pronounce a person innocent, not all the power of congress can hurt that person.  “The jury has the power to acquit and the Court must abide by the decision.” U. S.  v.  Malawian, 417 F. 2d, 1002, 1006 (1969)<br />
The jury, after having received the direction of the Court, shall have the right to determine, at their discretion, the law and the fact is constitutional. Appeal of Lowe, 46 An. 255, 26 Pac. 749, An. (1891).<br />
It is a common law right of the jury to determine the law as well as the facts. State v. Crate, 23 VT. 14, 54 Am. Dec. 90 (1849).<br />
The Supreme Court of the United States recognizes that the American Jury in our political scene is ” Deigned to protect defendants against oppressive government practices.”  United States Ex Rel Both v. Carlist, 350 U.S. 11, 16 (1955).   It is best said by Justice White when he said,  “A safeguard against arbitrary law enforcement.” in William v. Florida, 90 S. Ct. 1893, 1905, (1970).<br />
The special role of the Jury in cases involving political dissent was acknowledged to be particularly important because the American Jury then acts not only as a safeguard against judicial excesses, but also as a barrier to legislative and executive oppression.  </p>
<p>Take for example State v. Buckley, 40 Conn. 246 (Conn. 1873) This case was the prosecution for violation for selling liquor.  The accused claimed that the act was unconstitutional, asked the court to charge the jury that they were judges of the law as well as the facts.  The judge instructed the jury that in a criminal case they were judges of the law as well as the facts, but that they were under the same obligation in the matter with the judge on the bench, and were not authorized to say that is not law which is so; that the Supreme Court had decided the act to be constitutional; that if they decided to be unconstitutional which the Supreme Court had decided to be constitutional, they would disturb the foundation of law and, if on their consciences they could say that the act was unconstitutional, they ought to acquit the accused.  </p>
<p>So here you can see there is a way for the Jury to act lawlessly or by nullification of the law(s) that no longer represent the people.  It is clear that we must teach juries to acquit those 800,000 plus cannabis users and growers.  If we do this then we will render the law ineffective and they will stop enforcing it.  This is a peaceful path to bring change and we owe it to everyone to bring change by peaceful means.</p>
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		<title>By: Stompedonmyrights</title>
		<link>http://blog.norml.org/2009/10/03/norml-show-live-tonight-from-madison-wisconsin/comment-page-1/#comment-58269</link>
		<dc:creator>Stompedonmyrights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 01:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I refuse to go away!  I am a torn you just can&#039;t remove.
NOW, For one moment lets talk about the Duty of the Court and the Rights Secured by the People.   Here is a few thoughts to contemplate about our Court system and why I say we should attack the Cannabis Laws by class action writ and title actions.  This is a peaceful approach left to us by our founding fathers. 

The Courts are not bound by mere forms, nor are they to be misled by mere pretenses.  They are at Liberty ---- indeed, they are under a solemn duty---- to look at the substance of things, whenever they enter upon the inquiry whether the legislature has transcended the limits of its authority.   If therefore, a statue purporting to have been enacted to protect the public health, the public morals, or the public safety, has no real or substantial relation to those objects, or is a palpable invasion of the Rights secured by the fundamental law, it is the duty of the Courts to so adjudge, and thereby give effect to the Constitution.  (Related case law: Mugler v. Kansas, 123 U.S. 623, 661)

It is the Duty of the Court to be watchful for the Constitutional Rights of the Citizen, and against any stealthy encroachments thereof.  (Related case law: Boyd v. United States, 116 U.S. 616 (1886))

Closing thought: 
There can be no liberty if the power of judging be not separated from the legislative and executive powers. (Related case law: Searle v. Yensen, 118 Neb., 835, 226 N.W. 464, 69 P 2d 953.)

Remember this the next time you lite up your joint and enjoy your outlawed liberty;
  
	Liberty lies in the hearts of the people; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can even do much to help it.  While liberty lies in the hearts of the people it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I refuse to go away!  I am a torn you just can&#8217;t remove.<br />
NOW, For one moment lets talk about the Duty of the Court and the Rights Secured by the People.   Here is a few thoughts to contemplate about our Court system and why I say we should attack the Cannabis Laws by class action writ and title actions.  This is a peaceful approach left to us by our founding fathers. </p>
<p>The Courts are not bound by mere forms, nor are they to be misled by mere pretenses.  They are at Liberty &#8212;- indeed, they are under a solemn duty&#8212;- to look at the substance of things, whenever they enter upon the inquiry whether the legislature has transcended the limits of its authority.   If therefore, a statue purporting to have been enacted to protect the public health, the public morals, or the public safety, has no real or substantial relation to those objects, or is a palpable invasion of the Rights secured by the fundamental law, it is the duty of the Courts to so adjudge, and thereby give effect to the Constitution.  (Related case law: Mugler v. Kansas, 123 U.S. 623, 661)</p>
<p>It is the Duty of the Court to be watchful for the Constitutional Rights of the Citizen, and against any stealthy encroachments thereof.  (Related case law: Boyd v. United States, 116 U.S. 616 (1886))</p>
<p>Closing thought:<br />
There can be no liberty if the power of judging be not separated from the legislative and executive powers. (Related case law: Searle v. Yensen, 118 Neb., 835, 226 N.W. 464, 69 P 2d 953.)</p>
<p>Remember this the next time you lite up your joint and enjoy your outlawed liberty;</p>
<p>	Liberty lies in the hearts of the people; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can even do much to help it.  While liberty lies in the hearts of the people it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it.</p>
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		<title>By: Aleister Wilson</title>
		<link>http://blog.norml.org/2009/10/03/norml-show-live-tonight-from-madison-wisconsin/comment-page-1/#comment-58257</link>
		<dc:creator>Aleister Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And where is Ben Masel and why isn&#039;t he one of your guest???

IMHO Ben Masel is one of the top three current lifetime heroes of the hemp movement (Along with Jack Herer and Dana Beal). He has organized and run Harvestfest since it started. Time to give Ben his due, everybody. Thank you Ben, for all of your work and play throughout the decades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And where is Ben Masel and why isn&#8217;t he one of your guest???</p>
<p>IMHO Ben Masel is one of the top three current lifetime heroes of the hemp movement (Along with Jack Herer and Dana Beal). He has organized and run Harvestfest since it started. Time to give Ben his due, everybody. Thank you Ben, for all of your work and play throughout the decades.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://blog.norml.org/2009/10/03/norml-show-live-tonight-from-madison-wisconsin/comment-page-1/#comment-58219</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HELLO WISCONSIN!!

It&#039;s time to support Wisconsin&#039;s very own medical marijuana act by clicking here now: 

http://capwiz.com/norml2/issues/alert/?alertid=14115736&amp;type=ST&amp;show_alert=1

We can do this!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HELLO WISCONSIN!!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to support Wisconsin&#8217;s very own medical marijuana act by clicking here now: </p>
<p><a href="http://capwiz.com/norml2/issues/alert/?alertid=14115736&#038;type=ST&#038;show_alert=1" rel="nofollow">http://capwiz.com/norml2/issues/alert/?alertid=14115736&#038;type=ST&#038;show_alert=1</a></p>
<p>We can do this!!</p>
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		<title>By: Samson</title>
		<link>http://blog.norml.org/2009/10/03/norml-show-live-tonight-from-madison-wisconsin/comment-page-1/#comment-58212</link>
		<dc:creator>Samson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 09:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FreeKeene.com says it all my stoner activist starved friends. They are doing what we all should be.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FreeKeene.com says it all my stoner activist starved friends. They are doing what we all should be&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
		<link>http://blog.norml.org/2009/10/03/norml-show-live-tonight-from-madison-wisconsin/comment-page-1/#comment-58211</link>
		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 09:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the Ridley Report&quot; on YouTube.com also chronicles some of the protesters in the FreeKeene marijuana movement. Cool stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the Ridley Report&#8221; on YouTube.com also chronicles some of the protesters in the FreeKeene marijuana movement. Cool stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: The Truth Doctor</title>
		<link>http://blog.norml.org/2009/10/03/norml-show-live-tonight-from-madison-wisconsin/comment-page-1/#comment-58204</link>
		<dc:creator>The Truth Doctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 06:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LAST ONE -  ( I wouldn&#039;t be The Truth Doctor if i didn&#039;t tell the Truth )

       KGO Radio is the best and finest Radio Station on  the West Coast .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LAST ONE &#8211;  ( I wouldn&#8217;t be The Truth Doctor if i didn&#8217;t tell the Truth )</p>
<p>       KGO Radio is the best and finest Radio Station on  the West Coast .</p>
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		<title>By: Samson</title>
		<link>http://blog.norml.org/2009/10/03/norml-show-live-tonight-from-madison-wisconsin/comment-page-1/#comment-58201</link>
		<dc:creator>Samson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 05:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darn......CORRECTION: FreeKeene.com (capitol K )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darn&#8230;&#8230;CORRECTION: FreeKeene.com (capitol K )</p>
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		<title>By: Samson</title>
		<link>http://blog.norml.org/2009/10/03/norml-show-live-tonight-from-madison-wisconsin/comment-page-1/#comment-58200</link>
		<dc:creator>Samson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 05:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all CANNABIS activists....go to Freekeene.com
This could be our start. They have been and are continuing to protest prohibition openly at 420 P.M.
everyday by TIKING up in front of cops!!! 

Effing Beatiful man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all CANNABIS activists&#8230;.go to Freekeene.com<br />
This could be our start. They have been and are continuing to protest prohibition openly at 420 P.M.<br />
everyday by TIKING up in front of cops!!! </p>
<p>Effing Beatiful man.</p>
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