Comments on: Prohibitionists Don’t Read The Papers http://blog.norml.org/2009/11/09/prohibitionists-dont-read-the-papers/ Working to reform marijuana laws Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:36:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Rene http://blog.norml.org/2009/11/09/prohibitionists-dont-read-the-papers/comment-page-1/#comment-75986 Rene Fri, 30 Apr 2010 19:37:08 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/?p=2141#comment-75986 to #35.. coke, meth, crack heads are 90% likely to have smoked weed before. but everyone knows damn well that pot smokers don't go off trying new shit. we stick to herb and that's it. if you do another kind of drug you're no pot head but a damn dope fiend. and why would you rather have someone make an artificial pill to cure something then to take something natural. would you rather have a real woman as a wife or a blow up doll? pretty obvious what you would choose. to #35..
coke, meth, crack heads are 90% likely to have smoked weed before. but everyone knows damn well that pot smokers don’t go off trying new shit. we stick to herb and that’s it. if you do another kind of drug you’re no pot head but a damn dope fiend. and why would you rather have someone make an artificial pill to cure something then to take something natural. would you rather have a real woman as a wife or a blow up doll? pretty obvious what you would choose.

]]> By: packlama http://blog.norml.org/2009/11/09/prohibitionists-dont-read-the-papers/comment-page-1/#comment-62436 packlama Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:01:17 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/?p=2141#comment-62436 i was eating turkey one year and the guy next too me started too bitch about tommy chong then he sat down too drink a beer i felt realy insulted. i was eating turkey one year and the guy next too me started too bitch about tommy chong then he sat down too drink a beer i felt realy insulted.

]]> By: packlama http://blog.norml.org/2009/11/09/prohibitionists-dont-read-the-papers/comment-page-1/#comment-62431 packlama Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:21:54 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/?p=2141#comment-62431 #35 needs too get a life.ive smoked for 35 years but i dont drink any booze.booze was my gateway drug.smoke weed. #35 needs too get a life.ive smoked for 35 years but i dont drink any booze.booze was my gateway drug.smoke weed.

]]> By: william http://blog.norml.org/2009/11/09/prohibitionists-dont-read-the-papers/comment-page-1/#comment-62156 william Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:50:45 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/?p=2141#comment-62156 my brother says us pot heads are aii dirtbags and lowlifes my brother says us pot heads are aii dirtbags and lowlifes

]]> By: Trey G http://blog.norml.org/2009/11/09/prohibitionists-dont-read-the-papers/comment-page-1/#comment-62097 Trey G Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:24:05 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/?p=2141#comment-62097 Well, well, well, I see there are some very liberal people on here. Must be democrats. ha ha ha. 90Frank4-it's a good thing I wasn't your supervisor. If I had caught you not arresting for marijuana, I would have written you up and if that behavior continued would have tried to had you fired. That is dereliction of duty at its worse. If you let that slide you obviously let other serious crimes slide. Seems like you are a law enforcement leech. Takes a salary while playing cop! To me that's just as dishonest as stealing. You did not uphold the laws you swore to uphold. If any of you have had any DWI/DUI/DRE training you know full well how intoxicating marijuana can be and for those of you who think it doesn't lead to other drug usage, please, don't even go there. Most if not all people who use the harder drugs have at least tried marijuana. Just ask. So, NO, do not legalize marijuana for any reason. It may not be as bad as coke but none the less should not be ok to use. Unless I have been mis-informed, the ingredient in the junk that is used for medical purposes can also be made in a lab without the need for it to be grown illegally so why have it? [<strong>Editor's note</strong>: Cannabis must be legalized in a country where the local, county, state and federal governments allow the manufacture and sale of actual death-inducing drugs--notably alcohol and tobacco products--and benefit from the high 'vice' sales taxes on cultivation, distribution and sales of said products. Unless an individual also strongly believes that alcohol and tobacco products are inherently evil, dangerous please-seeking products, they can't make a straight faced argument that cannabis cultivators, sellers and consumers suffer moral turpitude and therefore deserve to be treated like criminals. Further, anyone who embraces the myth of the so-called gateway theory is either misinformed or ignorant. According to ALL of the government surveys, the first three drugs in America citizens try are caffeine, alcohol and tobacco products--with cannabis being the first <em>illegal</em> drug teens try. The clear and obvious 'gateway' products, after breast milk (and some persuasively argue refined sugar products), are caffeine, alcohol and tobacco products--not cannabis. Lastly, the only so-called 'gateway' cannabis has to hard drugs like cocaine, heroin, meth, etc...is in the illegal, uncontrolled and untaxed <em>distribution</em> channels fostered by illegal drug prohibition. The reason why the Dutch government has supported cannabis 'coffeeshops' for 35 years is because by creating lawful, Main Street access to cannabis products for responsible adults, any linkage or casual relationship with hard drug distribution channels are largely eliminated, resulting in markedly lower hard drug use rates, especially among the youth population. Some call this, a legal distribution system for adult cannabis use that looks similar to the alcohol distribution model, the foundation of a 'harm reduction' based policy for drugs, and it does appear that is where modern and civil societies are evolving to, not an embrace of the tax coffer-draining, Constitution-warping and obviously failed prohibition model for cannabis concocted by racist moralists--like Harry J. Anslinger--in the immediate wake of the federal government's last failed prohibition.] Well, well, well, I see there are some very liberal people on here. Must be democrats. ha ha ha.

90Frank4-it’s a good thing I wasn’t your supervisor. If I had caught you not arresting for marijuana, I would have written you up and if that behavior continued would have tried to had you fired. That is dereliction of duty at its worse. If you let that slide you obviously let other serious crimes slide. Seems like you are a law enforcement leech. Takes a salary while playing cop! To me that’s just as dishonest as stealing. You did not uphold the laws you swore to uphold.

If any of you have had any DWI/DUI/DRE training you know full well how intoxicating marijuana can be and for those of you who think it doesn’t lead to other drug usage, please, don’t even go there. Most if not all people who use the harder drugs have at least tried marijuana. Just ask.

So, NO, do not legalize marijuana for any reason. It may not be as bad as coke but none the less should not be ok to use. Unless I have been mis-informed, the ingredient in the junk that is used for medical purposes can also be made in a lab without the need for it to be grown illegally so why have it?

[Editor's note: Cannabis must be legalized in a country where the local, county, state and federal governments allow the manufacture and sale of actual death-inducing drugs--notably alcohol and tobacco products--and benefit from the high 'vice' sales taxes on cultivation, distribution and sales of said products.

Unless an individual also strongly believes that alcohol and tobacco products are inherently evil, dangerous please-seeking products, they can't make a straight faced argument that cannabis cultivators, sellers and consumers suffer moral turpitude and therefore deserve to be treated like criminals.

Further, anyone who embraces the myth of the so-called gateway theory is either misinformed or ignorant. According to ALL of the government surveys, the first three drugs in America citizens try are caffeine, alcohol and tobacco products--with cannabis being the first illegal drug teens try. The clear and obvious 'gateway' products, after breast milk (and some persuasively argue refined sugar products), are caffeine, alcohol and tobacco products--not cannabis.

Lastly, the only so-called 'gateway' cannabis has to hard drugs like cocaine, heroin, meth, etc...is in the illegal, uncontrolled and untaxed distribution channels fostered by illegal drug prohibition. The reason why the Dutch government has supported cannabis 'coffeeshops' for 35 years is because by creating lawful, Main Street access to cannabis products for responsible adults, any linkage or casual relationship with hard drug distribution channels are largely eliminated, resulting in markedly lower hard drug use rates, especially among the youth population.

Some call this, a legal distribution system for adult cannabis use that looks similar to the alcohol distribution model, the foundation of a 'harm reduction' based policy for drugs, and it does appear that is where modern and civil societies are evolving to, not an embrace of the tax coffer-draining, Constitution-warping and obviously failed prohibition model for cannabis concocted by racist moralists--like Harry J. Anslinger--in the immediate wake of the federal government's last failed prohibition.]

]]> By: Mohawkmangopit http://blog.norml.org/2009/11/09/prohibitionists-dont-read-the-papers/comment-page-1/#comment-61927 Mohawkmangopit Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:33:14 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/?p=2141#comment-61927 Someone needs to investigate how many drug busts went down in Mt. Pleasant, Cleveland, Ohio while corpses rotted inside the home of a known rapist. How many women died because the cops were busy busting young black men to send to the corporate prison system that's evolving in our sick society? Why were the cops so distracted that in the span of three years, they never found time to investigate the stench of dead bodies? Prohibition is one more tool of institutionalized racism. White kids walk when they get busted and grow up to be VP's of sales for bailed out auto companies or some such 6 figure job. Black kids go back & to through the revolving door prison for profit system that we have allowed to evolve. Shame on us - and if we don't fix it while Obama's in office - god knows when it'll be fixed. Think Sarah Palin will see the light? Someone needs to investigate how many drug busts went down in Mt. Pleasant, Cleveland, Ohio while corpses rotted inside the home of a known rapist.

How many women died because the cops were busy busting young black men to send to the corporate prison system that’s evolving in our sick society? Why were the cops so distracted that in the span of three years, they never found time to investigate the stench of dead bodies?

Prohibition is one more tool of institutionalized racism. White kids walk when they get busted and grow up to be VP’s of sales for bailed out auto companies or some such 6 figure job. Black kids go back & to through the revolving door prison for profit system that we have allowed to evolve. Shame on us – and if we don’t fix it while Obama’s in office – god knows when it’ll be fixed. Think Sarah Palin will see the light?

]]> By: closet smoker http://blog.norml.org/2009/11/09/prohibitionists-dont-read-the-papers/comment-page-1/#comment-61887 closet smoker Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:22:38 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/?p=2141#comment-61887 if we taxed this stupid stuff and stop trying to take over every body else's country we might be able to get our selfs out of this financial whole we put our selfs in. why cant paople undersatnd that we are a new generation of open minded people and we think with logic and not ignorance. I for one will be a supporter of this revolution, and i will not continue to fight for a country who doesnt even hear our voice. one thing we need to do as inforcer's of this new found glory is speek out, vote,get the facts. I would rather spend my tax dollars finding killers rapist and thiefs then tryig to stop people from get stoned. Oh and for all those holy ninjas that think they are doing the right thing by going against the grain with this fight, let me tell you that you all make me laugh. maybe if you smoked a joint you wouldnt be so worried about judging others so often. Let me also ad that i was born and raised hear and so where my parents and so on, and they faught for us to have a voice, so lets honor them and not give up the fight. i love america!! U.S.M.C. ooorahhhh if we taxed this stupid stuff and stop trying to take over every body else’s country we might be able to get our selfs out of this financial whole we put our selfs in. why cant paople undersatnd that we are a new generation of open minded people and we think with logic and not ignorance. I for one will be a supporter of this revolution, and i will not continue to fight for a country who doesnt even hear our voice. one thing we need to do as inforcer’s of this new found glory is speek out, vote,get the facts. I would rather spend my tax dollars finding killers rapist and thiefs then tryig to stop people from get stoned.

Oh and for all those holy ninjas that think they are doing the right thing by going against the grain with this fight, let me tell you that you all make me laugh. maybe if you smoked a joint you wouldnt be so worried about judging others so often. Let me also ad that i was born and raised hear and so where my parents and so on, and they faught for us to have a voice, so lets honor them and not give up the fight.

i love america!!

U.S.M.C. ooorahhhh

]]> By: lloyd http://blog.norml.org/2009/11/09/prohibitionists-dont-read-the-papers/comment-page-1/#comment-61757 lloyd Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:02:10 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/?p=2141#comment-61757 lots analize others to the point of what did they say if you comment its cause you like to read , an if the parliment bores others its because its to add a question id say photo radar is more of the cash cow,but then in toronto,ont they have other traffic cameras its what others say is a safety issue it could be your spouse on camera an you think would you!some might say hmmm! others say well work , vote,live an lets hope for bieng seen on camera its not for the busted file letters of the past. lots analize others to the point of what did they say
if you comment its cause you like to read , an if the
parliment bores others its because its to add a question
id say photo radar is more of the cash cow,but then in
toronto,ont they have other traffic cameras its what
others say is a safety issue it could be your spouse
on camera an you think would you!some might say hmmm!
others say well work , vote,live an lets hope for
bieng seen on camera its not for the busted file letters
of the past.

]]> By: Rene Ibarra http://blog.norml.org/2009/11/09/prohibitionists-dont-read-the-papers/comment-page-1/#comment-61705 Rene Ibarra Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:15:19 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/?p=2141#comment-61705 whatever happened to power to the people? wasn't our government powered by the people? SHOULDN'T the government do what the people WANT? not what THEY think is in the best interest in the country? why is it the people in power deny what the people want? i know for a fact if they held an "election" just as we do for our president to legalize marijuana, the outcome would be completely one sided. skip the middle men in power and go directly to the source. whatever happened to power to the people? wasn’t our government powered by the people? SHOULDN’T the government do what the people WANT? not what THEY think is in the best interest in the country? why is it the people in power deny what the people want? i know for a fact if they held an “election” just as we do for our president to legalize marijuana, the outcome would be completely one sided. skip the middle men in power and go directly to the source.

]]> By: Mike Stroup http://blog.norml.org/2009/11/09/prohibitionists-dont-read-the-papers/comment-page-1/#comment-61696 Mike Stroup Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:23:58 +0000 http://blog.norml.org/?p=2141#comment-61696 Why should prohibitionists allow themselves to be confused with the facts? After all, they are self-entitled to run other people's lives, just like the sociopaths prohibitionists by definition are. Prohibitionists have never ultimately prevailed even once in the past, and I doubt their current crimes against humanity, i.e. the drug war, will prevail this time. Why? Because it is God's will for people to live in freedom with liberty as acknowledged and cited in the Constitution of the United States. Prohibitionists are part of the problem, not the solution. Why should prohibitionists allow themselves to be confused with the facts? After all, they are self-entitled to run other people’s lives, just like the sociopaths prohibitionists by definition are. Prohibitionists have never ultimately prevailed even once in the past, and I doubt their current crimes against humanity, i.e. the drug war, will prevail this time. Why? Because it is God’s will for people to live in freedom with liberty as acknowledged and cited in the Constitution of the United States. Prohibitionists are part of the problem, not the solution.

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