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California Assembly Candidate Paul Chabot “campaigning against cannabis”

  • by Russ Belville, NORML Outreach Coordinator January 21, 2010

    The pure, unadulterated, distilled essence of Reefer Madness, courtesy of California Assembly Candidate, Republican Paul Chabot:


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    Let’s tear this thing up, shall we?

    1. It’s not “a few million here and there”, unless you count one-thousand, four-hundred millions as “a few millions”. The California Board of equalization has estimated that $1.4 billion dollars would be raised by regulating marijuana.
    2. Also, you’re absolutely right that every $1 in tobacco taxes is subsumed by $8.50 in health costs… because smoking tobacco is really, really bad for you! 400,000 Americans die annually from tobacco-related illness, compared to how many for cannabis? Oh, right, ZERO! I can walk into any hospital and find you a dozen people there solely because of tobacco smoking; I dare you to find me just one in the hospital solely for cannabis smoking.
    3. If there is any social cost from cannabis use, it is going to be far less than that of alcohol, tobacco, or even caffeine in our society, and we’re already paying those costs now and taking in ZERO tax dollars to mitigate those tiny costs. 22 million Americans smoke pot now, and an estimated 4 million Californians smoke pot now. In order for the social costs argument to make sense, $1.4 billion worth of new pot smokers would have to take up the habit following legalization. Even if pot smokng went up by 20% (a stretch to imagine), each of the 1 million new California tokers would have to cost California $1,400 annually to just break even on the tax revenue. For comparison’s sake, a recent study in Canada found the health costs of every smoker to be $800 annually, for drinkers it’s $165 annually, and for tokers it’s just $20 a year.
    4. Any burning vegetable matter – tobacco, cannabis, and a campfire – share some of the same carcinogenic hydrocarbons. That’s why so many patients now prefer to vaporize or eat their cannabis medicine. However, what tobacco and campfires don’t have are THC and CBD, both of which are non-toxic and have been shown to have anti-tumoral properties.
    5. A recent study in the journal Cancer Prevention Research concluded that “10 to 20 years of marijuana use was associated with a significantly reduced risk of [head and neck cancers].
    6. Dr. Donald Tashkin studied marijuana smokers for 30 years, seeking to find a link between cannabis use and lung cancer and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, and in 2006 told the Washington Post: “We hypothesized that there would be a positive association between marijuana use and lung cancer, and that the association would be more positive with heavier use,” he said. “What we found instead was no association [between cannabis use and lung cancer and COPD] at all, and even a suggestion of some protective effect.
    7. Dr. Tashkin later told McClatchy news: “Early on, when our research appeared as if there would be a negative impact on lung health, I was opposed to legalization because I thought it would lead to increased use and that would lead to increased health effects,” Tashkin says. “But at this point, I’d be in favor of legalization. I wouldn’t encourage anybody to smoke any substances. But I don’t think it should be stigmatized as an illegal substance. Tobacco smoking causes far more harm. And in terms of an intoxicant, alcohol causes far more harm.”
    8. Furthermore, nobody on our side suggests we should be selling marijuana to kids! That’s your side that insists on maintaining a prohibition on cannabis that continues to feature one million teenagers dealing marijuana to other kids with nobody checking IDs. When’s the last time you heard of a high school tequila dealer?
    9. Prop-215 was passed with the following very easy-to-understand wording for all the voters to read: “Seriously ill Californians have the right to obtain and use marijuana for medical purposes where that medical use is deemed appropriate and has been recommended by a physician who has determined that the person’s health would benefit from the use of marijuana in the treatment of cancer, anorexia, AIDS, chronic pain, spasticity, glaucoma, arthritis, migraine, or any other illness for which marijuana provides relief.”
    10. The 1996 California Ballot Pamphlet on Prop-215 read, in part: “Exempts patients and defined caregivers who possess or cultivate marijuana for medical treatment recommended by a physician from criminal laws which otherwise prohibit possession or cultivation of marijuana.”
    11. The 1996 write-up by the Legislative Analyst stated: “The measure provides for the use of marijuana when a physician has determined that the person’s health would benefit from its use in the treatment of cancer, anorexia, AIDS, chronic pain, spasticity, glaucoma, arthritis, migraine, or ”any other illness for which marijuana provides relief.” The physician’s recommendation may be oral or written. No prescriptions or other record-keeping is required by the measure.”
    12. The 1996 Argument in Favor of Prop-215 read: “MARIJUANA DOESN’T JUST HELP CANCER PATIENTS — University doctors and researchers have found that marijuana is also effective in: lowering internal eye pressure associated with glaucoma, slowing the onset of blindness; reducing the pain of AIDS patients, and stimulating the appetites of those suffering malnutrition because of AIDS ‘wasting syndrome'; and alleviating muscle spasticity and chronic pain due to multiple sclerosis, epilepsy, and spinal cord injuries.
    13. The 1996 Argument Against Prop-215 even warned: “Proposition 215 DOES NOT restrict the use of marijuana to AIDS, cancer, glaucoma and other serious illnesses. READ THE FINE PRINT. Proposition 215 legalizes marijuana use for ”any other illness for which marijuana provides relief.” This could include stress, headaches, upset stomach, insomnia, a stiff neck . . . or just about anything.” And yet, 56% of Californians supported it anyway!
    14. The 2% of San Diegans Chabot refers to are those using medical marijuana for cancer and AIDS. Paul doesn’t consider people suffering the pain and spasticity of multiple sclerosis, cerebral palsy, or amyotrophic lateral sclerosis to have “significant illnesses”. People going blind from glaucoma or wracked with the pain of migraine don’t have “significant illnesses”.
    15. So, how is it that within our community, we allow our school bus drivers and airplane pilots the choice of using alcohol and impairment-producing prescription medications? It’s not a “Pandora’s Box” we’re opening – marijuana is already here! If someone is going to be irresponsible and drive a school bus high, they are doing so now; prohibition isn’t stopping them.
    16. How do we bust people for driving high now? Chabot is referring to the use of urinalysis to determine whether someone has inactive THC-COOH metabolites in their system, which do not prove impairment and can remain in the system for weeks. However, there are blood tests which can fairly reasonably determine recent marijuana use, and new technologies are arriving that analyze saliva or armpit sweat (really) to determine recent use. Finally, there’s always the good old fashioned roadside sobriety test… you know, actually testing someone to see if they are impaired, not what they may have ingested.
    17. Who are you to tell anybody – terminally ill or not — how to feel or how not to feel? If someone is dying and smoking a non-toxic herb, you’re okay with it, but if they’re healthy, you’re going to have to lock them up in a cage to keep us all safe?
    18. “Pro-drug lobbyists?” We are not pro-drug lobbyists; we’re pro-marijuana. Johnson & Johnson Pfizer GlaxoSmithKline Roche Sanofi-Aventis Novartis AstraZeneca Abbott Laboratories Merck Wyeth Bristol-Myers Squibb Eli Lilly, with a combined $392 billion in annual revenues and 2.3 lobbyists for every lawmaker on Capitol Hillthat’s your pro-drug lobby.
    19. By the way, I’m still waiting for the first medical marijuana patient to beg me to stop fighting for medical marijuana laws because she felt he was being used.
    20. Marijuana doesn’t have “400 carcinogens”, it has 400 or so constituent chemicals, 64 of which are cannabinoids, and which don’t even become carcinogenic compounds until the marijuana is burned (but not eaten or vaporized).
    21. Marinol is 100% pure synthetic THC (people like you constantly complain about the new super-potent pot, some of which registers 20% THC) and is eaten. The delta-9 THC when ingested coverts to 11-hydroxy-THC which is far more psychoactive than smoked cannabis, and unlike smoked cannabis, lacks the cannabidiol that acts as an anti-psychoactive and mitigates the psychoactivity of delta-9 THC. In other words, Marinol will get far higher than smoked cannabis and it is a paranoid, anxious, terrible high.
    22. Sativex is a whole-plant extract sprayed under the tongue, and is superior to Marinol, but only because it is more like the natural plant cannabis that is superior to them both.
    23. As for the “sip of whiskey” comment, let me just quote the American Medical Association: “short term controlled trials indicate that smoked cannabis reduces neuropathic pain, improves appetite and caloric intake especially in patients with reduced muscle mass, and may relieve spasticity and pain in patients with multiple sclerosis.” Furthermore, the report urges that “the Schedule I status of marijuana be reviewed with the goal of facilitating clinical research and development of cannabinoid-based medicines, and alternate delivery methods.”

    On medical marijuana, who do you trust, the American Medical Association or a guy who believes there can be such a thing as a Drug Free California?

    144 Responses to “California Assembly Candidate Paul Chabot “campaigning against cannabis””

    1. Guy On The Corner says:

      Keep it illegal. I don’t want to pay taxes on my revenue.

    2. Adam says:

      1st. They already did a study on the average health care costs of alcohol, tobacco, and cannabis and we found that marijuana was significantly less.

      Who is is this young (probably first time running) CLOWN who thinks he’s going to tell people what ailments marijuana aids.

    3. Huff says:

      I think someone should bake a batch of special brownies and leave them at his door step. It will change his mind.

    4. Jim says:

      Fuck this piece of shit asshole slam this mutherfucker!!!

    5. Jim says:

      CBS and KYW have the best pics of buds I have ever seen, though.

    6. Jon says:

      Since when is a 21 year old considered a kid?

    7. Darren says:

      You can really tell this guy is someones puppet. He is trying to sell somthing to the public that he himself has no experience or education in. I bet it took him 30 minutes to review his script and position. What a asshole.

    8. Yimothy says:

      This article from The Washington Post makes Chabot’s argument about cannabis smoke containing the carcinogens found in tobacco irrelevant.

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729_pf.html

    9. Jayye says:

      smoke that cheeba cuz California needs ya

    10. carl says:

      He forgot to mention ALL the drug traffickers that would be taken off the streets. People put in jail. Paperwork for law enforcement officers that could be fighting other crimes more serious. Violence that would cease to exist from dealers. Etc, etc. Just the start…

    11. Brandon says:

      You can tell he hasn’t tried cannabis. I’m so fortunate to have been able to “see the light” in the truth. Peace and openness, the grass IS “greener” on the other side! :)

    12. dizzank says:

      i think that it is funny how he says when someone is under the influence of marijuana it is hard to determine when that person actually used their medicine 5 minutes ago or three hours ago. On a broader scale of things liquer and booze are very easy to determine if they are under the influence at all.Also the state could make lots more money if they had their cops at bars waiting for irresponsible drunks leaving at 1-2 in the morning…and wouldnt be such a lopsided cost to have a substance that had been under prohibition just like marijuana.

    13. Gavin Martin says:

      take it from me a 16 year old who smokes for his back that he had to get surgery on and have bars put in. I smoke weed every day without a medical card and ill tell you its much easier to get than tobacco and much safer. Ron paul 2012 wake up and smell the bud

    14. Ozlanthos says:

      I have no idea where to begin. The fact that the prohibitionists still crank out such tools to spew their bullshit is disturbing! How are kids going to be able to buy marijuana if it becomes legal? Right now kids can get a hold of pot easier than alcohol and tobacco, Why? STREET-DEALERS DO NOT CARD USERS!!! In a legal market we can prevent most under-age use, under prohibition we cannot prevent any….Which do you think will be better for our kids?

      Under prohibition, companies, state and federal agencies spend BILLIONS every year for urine-tests, in a legalized regime, we would get rid of that cost. Under prohibition we spend BILLIONS every year arming and training militarized police units specifically for taking down growers and dealers, if pot were legal, we could reduce these raids to compliance checks (making sure commercial growers are properly licensed, and that their production facility meets code conditions). Every year California alone spends millions cleaning up grow-ops in our national forests, if it were legal, there would be no reason to grow on public lands!

      To me the whole reason to keep pot illegal is to disenfranchise Americans. Dirt-farmers could be growing hemp, and keeping themselves out of bankruptcy. Bad for international mega-corps, good for the lowly American farmer. Hemp could replace wood, cotton, oil, and some foods. Good for American’s looking for work, bad for big government that wants us all panting at the public tit. As long as pot is illegal, industrial hemp will also remain illegal. This allows cops to charge us millions every year to rip up plots of wild “untended” feral hemp and call it marijuana (according to some study I read, 90% of all “out-door grow-ops” the police destroy are actually plots of “feral hemp”).

      -Oz

    15. Richard Tyree says:

      This guy is ignorant. People that smoke pot whether for medicinal or recreational purposes will continue as always. I think it should be legal and taxed.

    16. andrew hein says:

      haha ok why make more pills that generates more money to the goverment that they dont need marijuana is very resourceful let it grow free on the EARTHS land people need true facts forget all these bull crap thoughts it has been view to the public as bad in the us since 1913 everybody just smoke it up who cares about the risk enjoy life

    17. Darrell Kilgore says:

      #1, it is spelled ” Douche”

    18. mr reuben says:

      I can’t tell if this guy is a giant douche or a turd sandwich.

    19. Matt Smith says:

      San Francisco News Blog

      She states she is 100 % against legalizing marijuana .
      She has ties with PayPal ( Drug dealers , pharmaceuticals & Alcohol & now Pornography ? ) ) & people like the McCain’s ( Drug pushers )

      Smut Peddler, Guv Hopeful Meg Whitman Waffles on Porn Subsidies
      By Matt Smith in Politics
      Wed., Apr. 15 2009 @ 4:37PM
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      Gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman, who as eBay CEO proved her mettle as a hardcore fetish pornography entrepreneur, did not respond to an inquiry Wednesday about whether as governor she would seek to continue a California program that, until recently, subsidized the production of smut.

      Next week’s SF Weekly includes an exclusive report about a California economic development program that has routed tens of thousands of dollars in subsidies to an Internet pornography producer. Continuing — or even bolstering — this practice would seem a tailor-made campaign issue for Whitman, who bills herself as a business whiz ready to revive the California economy. She backs her economic talk with real chops: In 1998, just as eBay was preparing an initial stock offering, Whitman oversaw the creation of a special eBay site exclusively for the sale of pornography. The move was prescient — though much porn consumption has shifted to streaming Internet video, there’s still a market for specialized fetish material best sold in DVD — or otherwise physically-shippable form.
      In this spirit, Whitman’s “eBay Adults Only” brainchild is a place where, on April 15, $5.94 got one into the bidding for a DVD titled Redneck Trailer Torture. With $12 one could vie for “porn star Brianna Ryder’s personal g-string,” and $7.99 put one in the running for the DVD Grandma Has Sex With Everybody! Anal, Oral, Group!
      By mid-day on April 15, Whitman’s adults-only Web-auction brainchild had more than 87,000 items for sale, with prices the $5-$20 range. If this is typical, a back-of-the-used-thong calculation suggests an eBay porno-based income of several million dollars per year, potentially funding dozens of California jobs.

      On Wednesday SF Weekly asked Whitman spokesman Mitch Zak whether, given Whitman’s smut-peddling success, the porn-industry could count on her support as governor. Zak had not responded by press time

    20. asd says:

      If that guy were to punch me in the face,I would love it.

    21. CannicouerX says:

      I love how didn’t ask any questions that go against what he is saying. Now days they just let people come on their shows and say what ever they want without even proving that its right? Nobody mentioned vaporizing…. or the fact that just because i dont have a significant illinuss im just “getting high”? what kind of shit it that? i guess my depression and anxiety that i get just doesnt matter because its not terminal i shouldnt be treated for it… and he is saying weed is worse than cigs? please… look at the biiiiger picture guy. I hope you enjoyed the check you got for looking like a idiot on tv because ur a Hater

    22. Anonymous says:

      anyone else find it ironic that his address is…12223 Highland Ave

    23. Kim says:

      As a former conservative and hypocrite, I can say without doubt that Paul Chabot is a lost soul. Its not that Facts and truth mean nothing to him, its the fact that he lacks the intellectual curiosity needed to find the facts and truth.

    24. scottybeat says:

      Its is proven that when a object is illegal it is more attractive therefore more “cooler to do” If we make it legal than the sense of doing something wrong will soon go away and I bet people will not even want to smoke anymore because the glam factor will be removed and the medical patients that need it will be left alone and to live a normal life.This guy is fanboy of the tobacco industry and paper and oil.I say if marijuana never gets legal than we make Alcohol illegal and see how far that goes …..freaking hypocrites..

    25. Jeff Lucas says:

      this guy is one of the crookedest sob’s sponsored by the ONDCP. He gets 50k each year from the White House to “keep kids off drugs”, then he willfully and intentionally and illegally missappropriates that funding in direct attacks on patients. He goes after patients individually, harassing and slandering them in their lives.

      If this wicked man is supported by the Republican party, I will never vote for a Republican again- he is that evil.

    26. Jeff Lucas says:

      here is a link to a debate he was in a few months ago

      http://www.inlandsocal.com/healthfitness/forum/

      I love it how he explains his personal experience with cannabis is limited to his “addiction” at 12 years old, demonstrating his understanding of the effects of cannabis is quite immature.

      If th RNC supports this wicked and murderous hearted man, I will never vote for a Republican again.

    27. tony says:

      i hope he doesn’t get elected

    28. Jason says:

      This just goes to show that politicians are compulsive liars. Not a fucking word this tool said is correct.

      “Marijuana is the healer of a nation, Alcohol is its destruction” -Bob Marley

    29. nulllman says:

      i say keep it illegal. i love the idea of kids easily getting a hold of it. its great that my money is not going back to the country and instead going into criminals pockets. i love how Mexicans are killing each other and other people because its illegal. i get a hard on watching peoples lives destroyed for a plant and sick people in bad pain. its great that the Constitution doesn’t mean much anymore. if you excuse me im off to die from cancer ridden cigarettes and get alcohol poisoning.

      KEEP IT ILLEGAL!

    30. PressureKook says:

      The Democrats will be a footnote until the candidate of change changes himself and removes marijuana from Schedule 1 status.

    31. Eric says:

      What a moron “we have better drugs out there” he said let me guess he is refering to oxycotin these stupid fucking idiots piss me off so bad it is time for us potheads to take back control alcohol and tabacco is the real problem here.

    32. lo9an says:

      I thought the GOP stood for Personal Responsibility and Small Government? Doesn’t everything he said said stank in stark contrast to those IDEALS?

      FKn Hypocrite!

    33. Dave says:

      THC in front of it….lol

    34. john q says:

      NORML needs to really distribute the movie: the union: the business behind getting high. why not get a michael moore type of character for NORML? and put the movies in theaters..

      [Editor’s note: NORML is a non-profit organization that specializes in educating and organizing cannabis consumers, lobbying and litigation…the organization is not in the entertainment or movie distribution business.]

    35. PressureKook says:

      When did President Obama’s popularity begin to plunge?

      In March 09, an online town hall meeting was held by President Obama. The President was asked the question if he thought marijuana legalization could help the US economy. He flat out said “No I don’t. But what bothers me more is what this question says about the Internet online community.”
      Then his staff offered unqualified remarks that special interests groups such as NORML conspired and hijacked the town hall meeting with their marijuana questions.

      Popularity polls have been steadily going south for President Obama since he made his funk remarks back then.

    36. Jim Angleton says:

      See “63rd District: You need to know Paul Chabot” at http://bbvm.wordpress.com/2009/12/11/you-need-to-know-paul-chabot-dont-let-him-gain-office/ .

      Paul Chabot is a sick man. He comes from the drunken Military District of San Bernardino County, where everyone kisses the Feds for Jerry Lewis’s earmark handout, and promotes alcohol for its tax value.

    37. Clint says:

      Paul Chabot looks like an ignorant little boy who worked really hard to learn his lines for the school pagent. I bet he’s a closet queen.

    38. John says:

      Anyone voting for this idiot should have their head examined. They might find relief for their mental illness with medical cannabis ;)

    39. noxidereus says:

      Thanks Russ, that was an excellent rebuttal, as the facts are on your side.

      It is seriously depressing to me that politicians can get away with such blatant lies. It depresses me that the public is either really ignorant, really gullible, really stupid or all of the above. I think that the public should really hold politicians accountable. I think the fact that everyone accepts that politicians lie as just being part of life is retarded. If the public were smarter, then politicians who deliberately try to mislead the public would be looked upon with disgust and wouldn’t be elected to any office.

      When people are lied to, it is the same as taking away their right to vote. Democracy depends on an informed public. When people make decisions based on lies told to them, then the decisions really are not their own.

    40. Joe H says:

      Who paid this guy to say this crap, I am tired of the lies. The difference between marijuana and tobacco is simply life and death. There are thousand of people who die every year from from tobacco, name one person who died from marijuana. And on top of that Doctors want to prescribe drugs that comes from plant like poppy seeds, coca plants etc. that has more of a chance of an addiction that is a struggle to kick. Maybe if we pushed congress to banned tobacco and these other drugs like they do marijuana, I wonder if they would sing a different song.

    41. Keif says:

      Hmm…how starnage that this “gentleman” has a blog yet you can not comment on it. Imagine that. These laws are the reason I now a felon…for the rest of my life cause I choose cannabis over alcohol. I consider politicians like him my personal enemy.

    42. Keif says:

      I butchered my last comment…

      Hmm…how strange that this “gentleman” has a blog yet you can not comment on it. Imagine that. These laws are the reason I am now a felon…for the rest of my life cause I choose cannabis over alcohol. I consider politicians like him my personal enemy. I mean these guys aren’t about liberty or freedom or fellow citizens but the almighty dollar and power. I also contacted him and have asked that he turn on his commenting system on his blog page so we could have a healthy debate with him…it’s something I think he needs to do.

    43. joshua freeman says:

      do you work for the drug componie or somthing, yes cannibus has 400 cancer causing ethogens but i dont know one person who smokes as much marijuana as a a tobbaco smoker does, especcialy now days when the thc content is higher so you have to smoke less to acheive the same high. so excuse me but go fu** yourself you unfactual a hole. you mentioned two studys that go against legalization, we can mention millions!

    44. Mike Stroup says:

      Some people who have made up their minds absolutely refuse to allow themselves to be confused with the facts. The truth about cannabis will be around long after this idiot, complete with his irrational fear and hate, are long gone. Cannabis should be re-legalized immediately. On a related topic, not growing industrial hemp has to be very near the top of the list of the absolutely most stupid things this country has ever done. Mr. Chabot seems very comfortable with his self-appointed superiority to dictate how others should be allowed to lead their lives, even though they do no harm to others, and little if any to themselves. I wonder how Mr. Chabot would react if I ran his life in violation of God’s will for people to live in freedom with liberty as acknowledged and cited in the Constitution of the United States. At the very best, Mr. Chabot is a dangerously bad joke; at worst, he is an example and part of the problem, definitely not any part of a viable solution.

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