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Reality Check For Anti-Marijuana Group: Legalization’s Coming

  • by Allen St. Pierre, NORML Executive Director July 16, 2013

    The so-called Partnership for a Drug-Free [sic] America (PDFA) has been a prolific, yet impotent, anti-marijuana propaganda machine since its inception in the mid 1980′s under President Ronald ‘Just Say No’ Reagan. No other quasi governmental or private entity spent more money or had greater access to mainstream media to try to perpetuate the federal government’s failed cannabis prohibition. Only the now unpopular and underfunded DARE program rivaled PDFA in it’s high visibility efforts to maintain support among the American populace for cannabis prohibition–but was equally feckless–wasting billions in taxpayer dollars and not impacting youth drug use rates.

    norml_remember_prohibition_Both DARE and PDFA were largely ignored and underfunded by the George W. Bush Administration from 2000-2008, with the current administration continuing to follow suit by diminishing the size and scope of both’s finances and public reach.

    After the PDFA released a new survey today, with media outlets starting to contact NORML for commentary, only then did it become clear to me that the beginning of the end is die in the cast for PDFA when they chose to put out a survey that in effect says ‘marijuana legalization is coming, but only for adults’.

    Really?! PDFA needed to waste even more funding and bandwidth informing the public that support for cannabis legalization for adults is at an all time high, but that parents surveyed don’t think the herbal drug should be legalized for youth or marketed to children.

    Gee. Was there anybody in America advocating that children should be able to legally buy and use cannabis products?

    While the PFDA’s most recent survey seeks to create a political red herring about children and cannabis, the survey affirms the now obvious in American life: public support for continuing cannabis prohibition is at an all time low and tax-n-regulating cannabis is an alternative public policy that now enjoys majority support.

    After watching and archiving hundreds of anti-cannabis propaganda commercials from the PDFA going back to the late 1980s, reading this new survey acknowledging 1) Legalization is quickly picking up public and political support in America, 2) Americans want a sensible cannabis policy, where, like with alcohol products, only adults have legal and controlled access and 3) Parents have concerns about potential cannabis advertisements in mass media demonstrates to me that another major socio-political ‘tea leaf” has revealed itself with the PDFA now left to propagandize about if and how legal cannabis will marketed, not whether cannabis is an inherently ‘evil’ drug that will forever be prohibited.

    With even the hardcore anti-cannabis folks at PDFA now recognizing the changing attitudes about cannabis in favor of legalization, when will Congress and the White House finally embrace this political reality too?

     

    46 Responses to “Reality Check For Anti-Marijuana Group: Legalization’s Coming”

    1. Anonymous says:

      Congress and the White House will embrace this when there is some reason for them to. All those anti-legalization interests donate big bucks, all those anti drug groups deliver big votes.

    2. TheOracle says:

      Even PDFA acknowledges the need for proper regulation! It’s about damn time.

      Yes, the question in the last sentence of the article, that is the question. “[W]hen will Congress and the White House finally embrace this political reality too?”

      Below, the conclusions from the Report Summary:

      Conclusions and Implications:

      1. Support for medicalization and – to a lesser extent – for decriminalization and legalization of marijuana is widespread. The challenge now is:

      a. to determine how each of these scenarios will be implemented and regulated in the affected states, and

      b. how children can be most effectively protected in these states and throughout the rest of the country as further relaxation of marijuana laws is considered.

      2. Parents, including parents who have smoked marijuana themselves, believe that marijuana can be harmful to the developing brains and futures of their children.

      3. Parents – indeed adults in general – expect strict regulation of the consumption, sale and marketing of marijuana, even if they are in favor of legalization.

      4. Parents have a critical role to play – the critical role, they believe – in the education of their children on the risks of marijuana use.

      5. Medical professionals also have a critical role to play as the most trusted source of information for parents about the health risks to children of marijuana use.

      A majority of Americans want the feds to stop meddling and busting people in states that have legalized in some way, shape or form. The sooner the feds comply and stop, the sooner more states can jump on the cannabis money train. Pennsylvania is hurting for cash and jobs, yet the governor is taking an austerity approach and slashing this and that, and wants to privatize the state lottery (to some British outfit), wants to privatize the state-controlled state store liquor system (LCB), wants to reform (destroy) the state pension system, cut funding for health care for poor children, cut funding for the mentally ill and homeless, cut funding for public education K-12, and cut funding for the State System of Higher Education which is sending in-state tuition at state universities and colleges skyrocketing upward. It’s no wonder graduates have so much student loan debt and can’t pay it off. Pennsylvania is lagging in jobs production. Governor Corbett went to Western Europe to try to get foreign investors to built plants and make jobs here, but alas, all he came back with was basically the billion dollar tax break for Royal Dutch Shell in exchange for an ethane cracker plant out by Pittsburgh and the offer from Camelot, the British outfit that wants the state’s lottery and casino contract. Somewhere in there is a yet undisclosed gentleman’s agreement for when he’s out of office, you know, the revolving door that will net him lots and lots of money. Time will tell once, and once he’s out of office we’ll find out when he takes advantage of the revolving door.

      Meanwhile, cannabis money from tax-paying jobs and excise tax on cannabis products is The Solution to Pennsylvania’s money woes. No other sector wants to pay taxes but the cannabis community. All these mostly Republican prohibitionists in the state will do is run the state’s economy even further into the ground to kiss the asses of the federal prohibitionist Republicans, but as soon as the feds get out of the way of the states Pennsylvania will jump right on that cannabis money train.

    3. Dave Evans says:

      “Gee. Was there anybody in America advocating that children should be able to legally buy and use cannabis products?”
      Considering there are child rapist supporters, anything is possible. But it is still a waste of money.

    4. phrtao says:

      The politicians have lied for years – they cannot suddenly start telling the truth – they need an excuse. I think the politicians know what is happening they are simply waiting until just about everyone wants legalisation and then they can say they have changed their minds due to overwhelming public opinion. It’s way for them to avoid accusations of wasting time, money and lives and save face.

    5. Julian Olinick says:

      Congradulations to Norml.org, votehemp.com, leap.cc and mpp.org for all the hard work all these years that has overshadowed the propoganda machines and lead to the hemp amendment to the Farm Bill that passed the impossible Congress last week. Now it’s off to the Senate, and wow… even as we are witnessing the likely passing of Rep. Jared Polis’ hemp research amendment through the Senate can ANYone figure out what our victory strategy will be?

      I can only inhale slowly and try:

      An Analysis of the Hemp Research Amendment and Zombies on Food Stamps,
      By Julian Olinick

      This Farm Bill is the political catharsis of the American Tragic Irony our food and drug policy has become. These politicians even have a laid-back pro-cannabis activist like myself distracted by the politics, looking over my shoulder for the Food Stamp zombies. It’s like Marijuana Madness! I mean, what happens when these SCAVENGERS run out of Food Stamps!? Riddle me THAT! What’s next? Feed the alligator and all their little GATOR children and …Oh the HUMANITY! We’re ALL NEXT!!!! HIDE YOUR STASH!

      Or… maybe all the food went to those big farm subsidies for rich corporations like Monsantos?… … …NAAAGH! It’s the food stamp zombies. GOTTA be.

      First, Republicans took an about face when they noticed that, due to changing demographics, as it turns out, “whoops” there are now more voters on food stamps in the districts of the Republicans that voted to CUT food stamps than the Democrats who voted to stop them from being cut. (LOO-zerrrs…) So the Farm Bill was shot down and the Food Stamp Zombies stole our hemp victory!

      Next thing you know, the Farm Bill gets up again… just like a zombie on food stamps. Paul Ryan is floundering in a double-take when so many Congressman like him realize they stood up to big farm subsidies that turn around and put lots of money back into their own wallets. So “about face! –maybe those nasty farm subsidies that pay out farm insurance –even when big farm corporations have a good year– aren’t so bad after all.” (sigh) Ryan, you fool. THAT will come back to bite you in elections. (I meant the voters, not the food-stamp zombies. Well, then again, I don’t know, do zombies vote? Oh who cares).

      Finally, while Congress is going back and forth over subsidies and food stamps, no one paid too much attention to the DEA who made a last minute effort to block the hemp research amendment from passing through Congress for the first time in more than 50 years. The irony here gets deep:
      How ironic allowing the mere research into industrial hemp will be on the U.S. economy and politics at large compared to separating hemp first from the definintion of marijuana.
      The key to unlocking all varieties of cannabis prohibition is the C.S.Act that prohibits it denies there’s any difference between hemp and marijuana; So legally if the hemp research amendment passes and hemp is certified as medicine and fuel then so is marijuana.
      Write your Congressman. Go to hempcar.org and get educated.
      If the House version of this bill passes to allow research of hemp in states that have legalized it –without the Senate amendment version that tried to remove hemp from the definition of marijuana– then all it will take to end cannabis prohibition is for the University of Kentucky or Boulder Colorado to publish the medicinal use of hemp. In effect, to tear down cannabis as a schedule 1 drug classification under the Controlled Substance Act, one only has to google the University of Meir, Isreal to see how hemp increases nutritional absorption and decreseases bowel inflammation in patients with Chrone’s Disease. Publish locally, then file in court. Light it up then smoke it.
      Now how’s this for tragic irony? Now that minorities who are impovrished are classified more as “white,” (for whatever that means), and on food stamps, just how quickly can the U.S. government shut down a 40 year drug war campaign that was supposed to only incarcerate, take asset forfeitures and persecute black and latino minorities? What? You mean whites are minorities now? THAT was quick. Almost as quick as Paul Ryan turning food stamp cuts. Ha! (Get it? Cuz changing demograph.. oh whatever).

      In defense of some of the Senate Tea Party Republicans, specifically our Kentucky Senators, they did try to legalize hemp but never got a vote. (Ted Cruz doesn’t count. I havn’t decided what kind of zombie he is yet).
      But as for the House Tea Party Republicans, better check your demographics. Your dying, aging “white base” has been replaced by a whole new generation of poor white people… poor white voters, I may add, who are becoming just as victimized by the drug war as any other minority. Should never have named yourselves after a tea-party vandalism that dressed up in charcoal –failing to fool ANYone that they were Indians– when all that was accomplished was that the Boston tea party revealed rebel positions to the enemy. By the way, Thanks, tea party. The British just seized Boston harbor. You nearly cost us the revolution.

      You see, back then the “enemy” was the British crown and fledgling corporations known as joint-stock companies that wanted to monopolize hemp in the U.S. (not tea– the U.S. didn’t have the right climate for tea). The hemp trade war between the British and Americans continued into the war of 1812.
      Today corporations like Monsantos create patents on plants and have no sovereignty. They can foil taxes in multiple countries and use “Tea party” spies to flush out anyone against their subsidies. The Tea Party House Republicans have been reduced to money-laundering corporate spies. Even the tea party slogan is turned into a hoax if they don’t support hemp; how else do you “create jobs without spending a dime?”

      And we as spectating voters have only grass-roots non-for-profits such as votehemp.com and norml.org to battle the super paks and big oil lobbies such as the American Chemistry Council that purchase our own “freely” elected officials for the profit of price-controlled commodities by making sure plastics are made from crude oil. (!Lightbulb!)

      “But wait Mr. Olinick, are you saying we could make cleaner cheaper plastic if only hemp were legal and the American Chemstry Council were outlobbied by a burgeoning hemp industry?” Why yes I am, Mr. ficticious figment of my imagination! Can we say “biodegradable cellulose plastic made from renewable hemp oil?” Exxon -Mobile would NEVER allow it! But hey, the world is changing. Corn failed us for ethanol in the drought. Fresh water is now a finite commodity and hemp uses less water than corn. (BING!)
      “In other words, Mr. Olinick, you’re saying we have NO choice: We HAVE to legalize cannabis because twinkies were taken off the shelves when corn syrup and ethanol ran out during the last drought, were running out of irrigation water, and some Congressman was caught smoking POT?” YES! That’s EXACTLY what I’m saying…

      Soooo… just how important IS a hemp amendment that only allows research anyway? Let’s see.. “google, google…” (That’s me googling…) What the HELL!, You mean Henry Ford’s first model T off the world’s first assembly line was a hemp car with an engine calibrated for hemp ethanol fuel and no one TOLD me? (hempcar.org) Who told the EPA? Oh yeah, they’re the government. They own the patent on cannabis. (yawn).

      WHOOOA, bear, just BACK up a minute… So let me get this straight; the government owns the patent on cannabis; the government prohibits the sale and use of cannabis; and the only defense the DEA has for unconstitutionally legislating cannabis as a schedule 1 drug is because they say it has NO medicinal value?!! … Wait for it… …”BING!” THERE went one of my neurons. The Hypocrisy of our federal drug policy is officially unfathomable. Like a zombie on food stamps…

      Thanks to bad laws such as the Controlled Substances Act, our justice is sold for profit on a daily basis, victimizing the sick and the impoverished with profit-motivated law enforcement and overprescribed pharamcueticals; Prioritizing enforcement and asset forfeitures over treatment and prevention in a drug war that prohibits a non violent cannabis plant that only the government owns the patent for…

      And to think… the unraveling of all this injustice and political hubris could happen with such a small hemp research amendment… Good work Rep. Jared Polis. Good work everyone at votehemp.com norml.org and leap.cc

      I believe we can sleep easily now. Don’t let the food-stamp zombies bite. They’ll smoke you out of your stash!

    6. Gene says:

      The only problem is our leaders only care about the money in their pockets and not the voice of the people. The only way to hurt these people is to vote them out. Let them no its WE THE PEOPLE.

    7. Adam says:

      Norml needs to get people in California to believe in legalization just a little more. That state has the highest amount of people living in it. And if you read this comment Allen St. Pierre. There’s not just celebrities, famous people and the public that would help spread the word out to end this prohibition. But plenty of ex judges, ex DEA and ex police and ex police chefs. You gotta help to organize most of these important people in the public eye to go around and help get California to legalize cannabis in its state. Because once that state is legal, the country will soon follow very fast. You probably already know that California should of been the first state to make cannabis legal like alcohol. But unfortunately prop 19 got beat out because of too many absentee votes because those absentee votes were scared of Obama. But sense he’s not saying anything about Washington and Colorado. More and more other states will lose there fear. But please try your hardest to try and help California. It will definitely be a big help to you and the world win on this costly and dangerous war. And bring more peace to this planet earth.

    8. Adam says:

      Help the states with the most population to become legal. I’m just one person out of millions. But this idea seems the most logical. Because we obviously know if we rush this to much. it’ll most likely back fire like it did with prop 19 in California for being rushed. But nows the time to start getting a few things going to rally up people’s opinions and concrete there choose making on the truth about what cannabis is all about by using celebrities and famous people in favor of legalization and not just ex cops and judges. There all important but the celebrities and famous people can spread the word out in states with a very high population. And Media can be a good thing if its honest in the public eye. So If your a celebrity and you read this please contact Allen St. Pierre and ask him or tell him what your going to do or what you can do to help make this country a little more free and debt.

    9. Dodo Lurker says:

      After reading this latest blog from NORML,(About opiate withdrawal) I cant help but crack wise.Seems our sacred COWS are starving to death.(no Buddist disrespect intended)

    10. Cleveland Green says:

      The only thing evil about cannabis is all the lies and fear of it put out by those that can profit from it’s prohibition.
      Once it’s legal it will soon become a favorite of many
      Keep up the heat my NORML friends
      NORML is truly fighting for a cause that is worth a fight!!

    11. TheOracle says:

      Federally Sponsored Marijuana Study Backfires: Scientists Conclude DEA Should Reclassify Cannabis

      posted July 15, 2013 in the News of http://www.marijuana.com

      http://www.marijuana.com/news/2013/07/federally-sponsored-marijuana-study-backfires-scientists-conclude-dea-should-reclassify-cannabis/

      It’s worth the read. What’s Norml’s take on this study? Anything to add to it?

      [Paul Armentano responds: The link cites two studies — the first by the IOM, which was published to quite a bit of media fanfare in 1999 and which NORML highlighted again on the 10-year anniversary of its release here: http://norml.org/news/2009/03/12/institute-of-medicine-report-on-medical-marijuana-celebrates-10-year-anniversary-next-week, and the second, which is a review of recent clinical trials by the university of California. NORML highlights this latter paper here: http://blog.norml.org/2012/07/02/scientific-journal-cannabis-schedule-i-classification-is-not-tenable/.

    12. Miles says:

      Things seem to be looking for for drug reform advocates but we cannot take anything for granted! Check this out…

      Dianne Feinstein of California has sponsored a resolution honoring the men and women of the Drug Enforcement Administration on the occasion of the 40th anniversary of the agency.

      http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/sres178

      Can you believe it? She wants to honor an organization that has spent untold billions only to end up as a complete failure and hated by most Americans!

      Please leave your comments there since I’m reasonably sure that at least a few Senators and Congressmen will notice…

    13. Anonymous says:

      why dont we just get our own little lobbist to bribe the crap our of these dirty old senate men to support legalization?

      [Editor's note: NORML staff are registered lobbyists and the organization does have a political action committee that raises and donates funding to supportive politicos.]

    14. Anonymous says:

      While this admission by the PDFA is a white flag of sorts it is also a foreshadowing of the next front, how marijuana will be regulated and who will influence this process. I think it is critical that those of us that support rational regulation not allow this group or others like them, see Patrick Kennedy and SAM, to mobilize fear, and stifle real progress by dominating the conversation.

    15. Julian says:

      Check out this link from the New York Times, “Antidrug Campaign, Lacking Federal Funds, Turns to Social Media”
      http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/16/business/media/antidrug-campaign-lacking-federal-funds-turns-to-social-media.html?src=rechp&_r=0
      It begins:
      “The campaign, known as Above the Influence, was introduced in November 2005 by the Partnership at Drugfree.org, formerly the Partnership for a Drug-Free America; Foote, Cone & Belding, now the Draftfcb division of the Interpublic Group of Companies; and the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy.”
      After the body of the article attempted to defend “Above the Influence” by showing a commercial of an older brother telling a younger brother on the playground not to buy some drugs. (Never mind that if drugs were licensed 21 and over they would be less available on playgrounds).
      The article ends:
      “As for the search for corporate sponsorships, “we’re going to have to choose carefully,” Mr. Pasierb said, “to match our demographic and our agenda.” He offered as examples marketers in telecommunications, entertainment, insurance and sports.”
      It continues…
      “Mr. Ross agreed that sponsorships can be “tricky,” adding: “We have to find the type of brands that fit with our messaging in an integral way. The most important thing is for the teens who are following us to believe we’re not selling them out — and we won’t.” ”
      Yikes! That’s the last quote in the article?
      And “match our demographic and agenda…?” riiiight… like retired aging seniors from the marijuana madness generation? In other words, teenagers today recognize the hypocrisy of anti-drug ads so clearly that advertisers won’t finance federal programs.
      “Slave driver… the tables have turned.
      Catch your fire… You’re gonna get burned.”
      -Robert Nesta Marley

    16. PotinSC says:

      The problem with politician’s is they are people with big EGO’s. They go and spend their evenings to get in on local school boards and then weasel up the ladder. While the rest of us light up and watch the tube.

    17. Julian says:

      Correction to my earlier post. Votehemp.com just cleared up the contention over the hemp amendment to the Farm Bill stating that states that already allow hemp growth will be able to research without a DEA permit.
      The question remains then; if current law under the C.S.Act makes no distinction between hemp and marijuana, then how will the Department of Agriculture legally distinguish research for hemp from psychoactive cannabis? Wouldn’t any medicinal publications refer to both marijuana and hemp until a legal distinction is established?

      [Paul Armentano responds: The provision you refer to was adopted in the House version of the Farm bill. The Senate has their own version and that version does not include this amendment. Both the House and Senate will eventually have to concur on one version, which may or may not happen any time soon. But in the interim, this hemp research provision is still a long way from becoming law.]

    18. Galileo Galilei says:

      By standing against reform for decades and preventing proper regulation, the PFDA has in all likelihood done as much to introduce marijuana to youngsters as all the dealers in America.

    19. Ben says:

      re: Galileo Galilei says:
      July 19, 2013 at 7:28 am

      “By standing against reform for decades and preventing proper regulation, the PFDA has in all likelihood done as much to introduce marijuana to youngsters as all the dealers in America.”

      =====

      All these prohibitionist lies are what has amounted to one of the most common arguments against cannabis legalization:

      “It is a gateway drug.”

      Because people see that cannabis widely used, and its effects are never within the supposed guidelines of a Schedule I substance.
      They see that many benefit from it,
      and they, then, question the OTHER drugs available to them.

      THE ONLY REASON CANNABIS COULD BE CALLED
      A GATEWAY DRUG IS BECAUSE IT,
      IN AND OF ITSELF IS HARMLESS.

    20. Chad says:

      Exactly, this has become nothing but a modern day moonshine operation. Prohibition has never worked and never will work. The kids of this generation watch old school moonshine videos and feel horrible about all the old timers who had rough lives just because they enjoyed to drink. Today we know that Cannabis has Factual evidence that it is nowhere near as harmful as cigarettes nor liquor on the human body.thankfully this will all change because the system is still harming people who enjoy smoking cannabis rather than a cig or alcohol and we know its less harmful which is a great reason to legalize. Seriously who wants to raise their children knowing if their kids decide to smoke a joint they can be arrested? Id rather them smoke and barely Finnish school than become a alcoholic and drop out. I’ve seen plenty of people smoke plenty of ganja and still pass their test with flying colors. I have seen many more get drunk the night before and never even show up because they cant due to personal hangover issues.

    21. 420 Friendly says:

      Throughout my school years (K-12) we always had anti drug groups come talk with us students. I can honestly say their speeches were basically the same “drugs are bad and MJ is the gateway”. well I’ve been smoking pot for 13 years now and I don’t cook meth, shoot up, steel cars or give BJs for blow!… I believe that the (Just say no, Drug free week, and DARE) have the opposite effect on the youth of this nation. These kids watch TV shows and movies with weed scenes and they see stoners as roll models. Then they go to school and are forced to watch some B.S. assembly about drugs. So what you end up with is a child with weed on his mind wanting to experiment. But This whole labeling MJ as a gateway is insane,If weed were legal nobody would drive to the hood and buy it from the same person that sells cocaine or meth. They would go to a dispensary thus we would remove that element and or label of MJ being a gateway drug.

    22. Weed The People says:

      @Julian Olinick
      IF you want to blame somebody, the face of prohibition is: Obbummer
      It’s his DEA along with his thug justice dept aided by the FBI have caused more harm to the cannabis community. Even as the arrest numbers keep
      climbing to a all time HIGH, nobody blames him. This nation is ass backwards. Headed by a giant Asshole.

    23. Julian Olinick says:

      If you refer to my first post that ragged on the House Tea Party, let me add that it took bipartisan (63Republicans 162Democrats: http://www.votehemp.com/alerts/vote_hemp_alert-20130718.html) to pass this bill. And reality check, yesterday was the first time in U.S. history since Nixon signed the Controlled substance Act that a U.S. President mentioned the “drug wars” with any condemnation. Obama’s heart-felt, unscripted speech had him bring out the “elephant in the room,” (and I’m not just talking about Republicans)going so far to mention how African Americans have been incarcerated under failed drug policies disproportionately to “white” brothers and sisters.
      At this point in history, if we don’t move forward to end prohibition there will be no one to blame but ourselves. It’s time to put our money where our mouth is and DONATE. DONATE to Norml.org. Go to the link above and donate to votehemp.com and let’s get the hemp research bill passed before Septemeber.
      People are rising up around the world to end tyrannical regimes; Egypt ousted Morsi; Russians liberated their political opponent to Putin from a staged conviction of embezzlement. They got out and protested. All we have to do is google our problems, find a non-for profit who has been working on our issues for decades, write our Congressman, donate and in less than 10 minutes go back to our daily lives. Democracy doesn’t work unless we become activists, pull our own weight, stop pointing at the problem and help show eachother positive solutions.
      Let me put it another way; I caught my 3 year old son playing with my six year old daughter’s dolls. I threw the dolls away and punished my son verbally.
      I caught my 3 year old son playing with my six year old daughter’s dolls. I put the dolls away, picked up a toy plane, and played with my son for 15 minutes.
      Which approach stopped my son from playing with dolls?

    24. JOANN FORSBERG says:

      Okemos businessman smoked by federal pot law

      http://www.detroitnews.com/artic

      Dennis Forsberg isn’t your typical felon. The Okemos businessman is 59 and should be contemplating retirement and grandchildren. Instead, on July 23, Forsberg is headed to federal prison in North Carolina to serve a three-year sentence on pot charges.
      GO TO THE ONLINE DETROIT NEWS PAPER AND READ STORY AND LEAVE A COMMENT. FOR IT IS TO LATE FOR TWO OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS. BUT, ACROSS AMERICA THERE ARE MANY WHO SHALL YET BE RAIDED, INDICTED AND SENTENCED. THE MORE WE GET THIS STORY OUT; THE MORE WE CAN TAKE IT NATIONAL TO PROTECT AMERICAN CITIZENS.

    25. Adam says:

      Hey norml maybe you should look in to this. California Cannabis Hemp Act of 2014. I guess this starts getting signatures on October 1 of 2013. Needs 750,000 votes to be put up for 2014 ballot. California can defentely use your help. Kounterkulture media is sending messages out. And a bunch of other things. Look into this if you can. Like I said California would a big stepping stone towards a nation wide legalization. If someone else gets this beside Allen st Pierre that works for norml. Please address him about this and let him know.

    26. Ted Mishler says:

      According to wikipedia, treason and High Crimes bound

      What ever happened to the oaths the feds took to protect everyone’s constitutional rights to religion, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?

      And when will the treasonous traitors of humanity, pardon the pun, “weeded out”?

      We have here in indiana people who call themselves preachers who actually believe that all drugs are just evil, even though keneh bosm is in the bible, google chris bennet and keneh bosm for explanation, but why is it common thought that constitutional rights of the cannabis community is something that every state has the right to vote on when every state has a duty to protect everyones constitutional rights, not just the pharmaceutical client’s interests, nor the tobacco and stagger heads, let me have a job usa you traitors, soldiers fought and died for everyones freedom, usa should be ashamed

    27. Ted Mishler says:

      and http://iahushua.com/T-L-J/MariC.htm “The Three Wise Men who came to witness the birth of Christ are believed to be Zoroastrians, who regarded hemp as a special gift of God.”

      So would then Jesus ever have been discovered if it were not for the 3 wise men who were considered wise, even though they used cannabis and in the BIBLE?

    28. Ted Mishler says:

      So then the Bible teaches to be wise, one needs to be like the Zoroastrians, and use cannabis

      magi
      magic
      cannister is really a magical heavenly wonderful plant

    29. Ted Mishler says:

      lol! cannister?

    30. Marijuana d??? n?t ??u?? brain damage, genetic damage, ?r damage th? immune system. Unlik? alcohol, marijuana d??? n?t kill brain cells ?r induce violent behaviour. Responsible marijuana smokers present n? threat ?r danger t? America ?r it? children, ?nd th?r? i? n? r????n t? treat th?m ?? criminals, ?r t? t?k? th?ir children away.

    31. dax says:

      this is how Texas becomes a Blue state :) and this is how the gop is gonna lose the house…

    32. Anonymous says:

      The party that takes on legalization may well win the next election. Both parties could fit it I to their platforms.

    33. troy says:

      Somewhat ironically, by incorporating We the People into the largest, richest and most powerful private corporation and giving each American an equal, non-transferable share of the public treasure, we can bypass the obstructionist politicians and their corporate paymasters and make our own decisions by equal voice and votes on electronically held shareholders meetings.

      Each citizen’s share of the public lands, mineral rights, airwaves, etc., will also guarantee his and her survival in an increasingly jobless nation.

    34. Nathaniel says:

      I can only hope that as more states move to legalization of medicinal, their constituents see that there is real opportunity for recreational dollars to flow in as well. That coupled with the legal/incarceration savings makes for a very convincing argument to completely legalize.

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    37. Ted Mishler says:

      To the poster called troy, it seems you may have a good idea, non transferable would mean no one could steal another’s assets, but it seems you haven’t finished the details on how that could be achieved, care to elaborate?

    38. Ted Mishler says:

      “Cannabinoid Receptors – Horizon Cannabis – The Evil Weed” from BBC is another one, and this is the one I was looking for, cause it shows the thc receptors in the body being scanned by mri for 5 hours, and you can plainly see the receptors are litterally spread out all over our bodies, and the redish hues are where they are concentrated the most, and its interesting to see those images, the only negative or study I disagreed with until I see how in detail the lab studies were conducted, the titration levels, the thc spin levels, the rotation in degrees, the thcv present if any, the percentage of cbd thc cbn, and I imagine those kinds of details will not be found, and yet they could potentially proove at what dose make a person feel well, people say they dont want to be high, yet feeling well, is being high, thats what people don’t inderstand and we are all different, so im sure there is a variance on what levels we all feel comfortable with, and I am sure those comfortable levels vary within our own systems too, only thing I can think of is around the 5 and a half minute mark they claim that children were adversley affected in their brains, but adults never are which tells me they when they did their lab studies must not have used the proper titration, and strain, their have been proven cases in vids on yotube of kids with illness that actually the illness seemed to relapse, or at the least it lelieved some symotoms like vomiting, it makes the taste of food a thing of joy thats for sure, made them smile, which well, umm I guess I will go get some dew now, and something to eat, but oh and that negative title too, why that? Maybe its a poor unfunny mean british joke? Nothing evil in feeling well, so nothing evil in feeling high, and so nothing is evil with cannabis

    39. Ted Mishler says:

      or lol was it the youtube poster?

      oh whatever

    40. Troy says:

      Ted
      Incorporating We the People gives each citizen equal Non transferable shares of stock in the public treasure at birth guaranteeing each a living. The stock cannot be sold, bargained away or revoked and reverts back to the public upon death.

    41. Ted Mishler says:

      Troy,

      So are you saying, and i say this as someone who has little knowlege of corporations, are you sying that each of us are a part of the United States as a whole? Or are you saying that we can start our own corporations like normal?
      I keep wondering if there is something i just dont understand?. i mean the secrecy, does it extend to oh wait, gotta get thoughts together and finish toking

    42. Troy says:

      We the people still own our public lands, our public airwaves and much more with a value of many trillions, but are not getting our dividends from their leases while banks and corporations glom and privatize this our public treasure. Each American needs to have an equal share of stock in our public treasure and receive dividends from their use. Dividing 300 million people into say ten trillion means that each citizen would receive enough dividends that would make us all quite wealthy.

    43. Ted Mishler says:

      So Troy, How does one go about mean you can’t just go up to a bank, and claim that you are owed for your part in the public treasure, they’d call the police on you, or ask you to leave, i suppose you are speaking about a better future way of living in the states?

      If only all people were considered equal per our constitution, but we are not those that suffer are the ones with out weed, so i suppose we are on the winning team no matter what:)

    44. troy grant says:

      You would own shares in the public treasure the same as you would own shares in Wal Mart. Then you receive dividends from their use and leases equally for all American citizens. These shares are non transferable so you can’t buy or sell them. They are deleted when one dies, so the value of all shares goes up. We could hire and fire the management of We the People Inc. in yearly onlline stockholder’s meetings, just like any other corporation. And we could protect our commons from overexploitation and destruction. As the largest, richest corporation, we would have a competitive advantage over all others. No other corporation would be able to ban cannabis or institute unfair laws for protectionist purposes by bribing politicians. Equal share distribution in trillions of dollars of our public lands, waters, resources, etc. would mean each American citizen would receive over a million dollars worth of shares in the commons. That is economic democracy that oligarchs can’t take away by privatizing the public treasure and continuing to steal it from the public.

    45. Fat Freddy says:

      They’re finally realizing that people are becoming wise to the fact that the WOD/Private Prison System is the new Jim Crow. They don’t want to be seen as its enforcers although they’ve always been.

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